Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Vician.
Debates of June 4th, 2012
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Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Peter Vician
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In addition to the Minister’s comments, we are continuing to work closely through these contribution arrangements to ensure there are elements of food security built into the programs that a number of our operators are bringing forward across the North. We’re also working with the federal government through the Growing Forward Program which does require oversight with regard to how our food production standards are being brought forward.
For the benefit of committee, we’ve had a very successful year in 2011-2012 with full disbursement of the contribution funds that you note on 12-34 and anticipate fully subscribed allocation that deals with all regions of the territory and all types of food supply, fish, poultry, reindeer, garden produce, and dealing with that whole spectrum. It’s very exciting and very much a very valuable program of the department, and we’re expecting as much success this year by the enthusiasm we’re already hearing this month.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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Bob Bromley Weledeh
It’s clear that I have lots of colleagues that share your enthusiasm for this real high potential area. I agree that there are a lot of amazing and wonderful entrepreneurs out there. I noted that they also play a big role in the communities for sharing their expertise. They’re all very much outgoing that way and are real nodes and worthy of our support. I’m very glad to hear that this is fully supported.
I guess maybe just to move on here. Are these $300,000 essentially federal dollars? Are those the going forward or is that in addition to that? I’m wondering what that amount would be.
I’m also – just to get my questions in all together here – wondering if there’s been success on the work to get in place a mushroom enterprise, the guidelines for mushroom enterprises in terms of permits and so on. Where we’re at on that. I believe work was started in the 16
th Assembly on that and if
we do have a big fire year, and we had some fires, last year there could be again hundreds of thousands of dollars’ worth of mushrooms that would be exported from the NWT, or transported at any rate. Last time most of the people benefitting were from outside the NWT. We want to capture that in the North as well.
My final one is with regard to the fish program of support. I know my colleague from Hay River South had a suggestion. I’d love to see local people taking advantage of this industry and I wonder if we have a mentorship support program in the fishing industry. Something that allows young people to get out with the fishermen, experience the program,
even on a short-term basis to help solicit interest in that industry.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Peter Vician
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’ll speak first to the Member’s question with regard to the funding that’s reflected on page 12-34 on the agricultural and meat and fish programming. Those funds are GNWT budget allocations. They are stand-alone. So that’s the GNWT making that investment. They’re used as part of the leverage to draw – and if you refer to page 12-38 there’s $369,000 from Growing Forward Program, which is what we call a vote 4/5, work on behalf of others. That’s the federal contribution proposed for this year under Growing Forward Program, which sunsets, I should mention at this point, March 31, 2013. We use the leverage to show our equity share and these two programs continue on.
If I may on the fishing side, we continue to support the Fishermen’s Federation in the Northwest Territories through a number of programs. Those programs help the operators deal with capital ongoing support programs. We don’t have a specific mentorship program with the FFMC, Great Slave Lake fishery; however, we know a number of the operators are working with young people, trying to encourage them to take on the lifestyle, to work on the boats for the seasons and in the winter. It’s an ongoing effort and obviously a challenge not just uniquely here. It’s everywhere trying to continue the labour market in this fishery area.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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The Chair Daryl Dolynny
Thank you, Mr. Vician. I believe there’s also a question on mushroom farming as well. We’ll move to Mr. Ramsay.
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a comment on the idea that the Member had in the area of mushrooms. If it is a bad fire year and there is an opportunity there to harvest mushrooms, that is a great business opportunity and could be a business opportunity for a number of communities around the Northwest Territories. If there are interested parties in those communities that want to come forward and apply for some of the funding that we have at ITI, we’d really like to see that happen. Back in 2011-2012 Arctic Morels Canada had gotten some funding from us. A small amount of funding, but I think there would be opportunities there and I think that it’s good that the Member brought that up, because it’s an area that often gets overlooked and we could see some communities harvesting mushrooms and we’d love to help them do that.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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Bob Bromley Weledeh
That’s great. I appreciate the Minister’s and the deputy minister’s remarks there. I think there might be a need for some coordination
with ENR, which I would appreciate if the Minister would take that on.
Just in terms of the mentorship, it’s so important, I think, to get young people exposed to these opportunities at a time when they can get turned on to different industries. If there was a possibility, I would appreciate if the Minister would keep his eye open for a potential to support some sort of mentorship program to get young people exposed to that possibility. That’s all I had, just a comment.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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The Chair Daryl Dolynny
Thank you, Mr. Bromley, for that comment. Members, we’re on page 12-32, page 12-33 and page 12-34. Mr. Yakeleya.
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Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to ask a question to the Minister on the support for commercial harvesting and processing and marketing fish and meat in the Territories. We have heard it on the news and my colleague Jane Groenewegen has talked about it.
I want to ask the Minister, we have world-class fishing here in Great Slave Lake and Great Bear Lake and other areas in the North here. We have some money here allocated to the marketing of fish and the meat. We heard from the news report the fishermen’s situation. We also heard from our colleague here. I want to ask the Minister if we are making headway on this initiative here. I’d certainly like to see some of our foods in the stores or even again in our institutions here. Especially with the fish and the market and the meat.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a clarification. Did the Member want me to comment on the $225,000 to commercial fisheries or is he talking about the commercial harvest processing and marketing of fish and meat, the $550,000 on page 12-34? I just wanted to get some clarification.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Ramsay Kam Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The $550,000 is for marketing of fish and meat in the NWT. We’ve seen some of that money get spread around the Northwest Territories into all five regions. I can get a breakdown for the Member if he likes. It’s the promotion and support of commercial harvesting, processing and marketing of fish and meat in the NWT. It will increase the availability of locally produced and healthy food in NWT communities. Thank you.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I look forward to the Minister providing that to me sometime. I certainly appreciate that. I want to ask about this, because at the Grey Goose Lodge in Deline we have a world-class lake there with fish and they don’t really serve the Great Bear Lake trout at the restaurant. We have to go to the store and buy Captain Highliner’s cod fish and chips there. Why are we not having the fish from Great Bear Lake served at that lodge or wherever? Why do they have to go to the Northern Store to buy Captain Highliner’s cod fish? There’s something wrong there.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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David Ramsay Kam Lake
I agree with the Member; there is something wrong with that. I’ve had trout from Great Bear Lake and I can attest to that. That’s some of the best trout you’ll ever eat.
In the last fiscal year, ’11-12, we provided through the program just $28,000 to the Deline Land Corporation for a feasibility study on meat and fish processing in the community, and also to the Deline Land Corporation $120,000 for the construction of a meat and fish processing plant. So we’ve gotten some of that money out the door and we’re hoping it will make a difference and we’ll get some of that Great Bear trout into some homes in the communities in the Sahtu and around the territory. Thank you.
Committee Motion 4-17(3): Deferral Of Consideration Of Minerals And Petroleum Resources Activity Under Iti, Carried
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The Chair Daryl Dolynny
Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Again, committee, pages 12-32, 12-33 and 12-34. Economic diversification and business support, activity summary, grants and contributions, grants, $625,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Daryl Dolynny
Contributions, total contributions, $13,043, total grants and contributions, $13.686 million.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.