This is page numbers 2093 – 2142 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.

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Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Just for clarity’s sake, is that $1 million package that goes to allied health considered a normal part of the negotiation in their contract that they’re upgrading or, probably, yearly requirements of taking training? Is that normal to be negotiated in their contract?

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Debbie Delancey

I do not believe that this is part of the negotiated contract for our allied health professionals. It’s something that was put in place many years ago to go with the Recruitment and Retention Initiative. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Is this considered consistent with other places who hire nurses under this Allied Health Program? I’m just trying to get a sense here. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Debbie Delancey

Thank you. It is certainly common across the country. The level of support that we provide may vary, but it’s absolutely consistent. Most progressive employers will, of course, provide some support for training and professional development for all professionals, but particularly in the health and social services fields where there is so much competition across the country it’s considered almost an essential part of a recruitment and retention package. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Would this be similar for doctors that have to do yearly testing or upgrading or skill development per se? I know some dentists, I think every year, have to do some type of week or a day or two and there are other industries within health that require, obviously, a day or two seminar or whatnot to keep their credentials up to speed. Is this somewhat similar and do we pay for those as well? Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Debbie Delancey

Thank you. Yes, it is similar and it’s part of our contract with physicians. We do provide funding for what’s called continuing medical education and it is very similar. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Just one last question, I believe, on this particular area. Would we be considered part of the norm or would we be considered part of the generous group? So in other words, is this consistent amongst pretty much every other jurisdiction or is this considered maybe over and above services that we offer just to keep them coming to the North, which isn’t as common in other areas? Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Debbie Delancey

Thank you. Based on the most recent research that we’ve done, I wouldn’t say that we are considered part of the norm, but probably not part of the most generous group. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. DeLancey. Moving on with questions I have Mr. Bromley.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just the last item on the page. I see we’re down about half a million bucks for health promotion and prevention activities by the authorities. I guess I’m wondering why the drop there from $715,000 to $221,000 there in this fiscal year. How’d we do with the $715,000 in terms of promotion and prevention activities in ‘12-13 and why the cut there by 70 percent? Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. For that we’ll go to Ms. Mathison.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Mathison

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The line item is actually a reallocation. In ‘11-12 and ‘12-13 opening mains, the expenditures actually show up

in activity 500, but we’ve done some reorganization at the department and this line was not restated to reflect the reorganization.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you. An area I have no expertise. I have nowhere to lodge that answer, so I’ll have to just trust the director here, which is fine. If I can jump ahead just a little bit because they may be related here on the next page, I see that we’ve increased $360,000 for population health contributions in the area of tobacco, and healthy choices by about $360,000. Is that part of this shuffling?

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Mathison

Thank you. Yes, it’s the same explanation.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you. Moving on with questions I have Mr. Moses.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Sorry, Mr. Chair, Mr. Bromley asked the questions that I was going to ask. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Moses. Last on my list I have Mr. Hawkins.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’m just wondering if the Minister can provide a breakdown of the territorial health services contributions. It’s listed as $739,000. Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. I’ll just give the Minister a chance to find it in the briefing. Minister Beaulieu.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The breakdown is NWT Midwives Association, $8,000; NWT Seniors’ Society, $188,000; Canadian Institute for the Blind, $100,000; NWT Council for the Disabled, $183,000; Hay River Committee of Persons with Disabilities, $35,000; in-house respite contributions, $225,000.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. I notice there seems to be an absence of the description under this particular title. Is there a reason why in-house respite services at $225,000 isn’t listed in some type of detail, or furthermore, why isn’t it broken out on its own? Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

There was no specific reason for it to be here. The only other option would be to break it out on its own, and if that’s the request of the House, then we would break it out on its own in the next cycle.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Just trying to understand, why would in-house respite be treated as a program delivery under grants and contributions? To me I think in-house respite services would be, if it’s a grant under grants and contributions, something we’d supply to some association or organization that does that. So why would we refer to it as in-house? Thank you.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you. For that detail we would have to get back to committee.

Committee Motion 6-17(4): Establishment Of Midwifery Services In Hay River, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Sure, if you can have an answer by 6:30, that would be good.

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That’s fine. I was only kidding on that one. I’d be happy if they could get back as soon as possible. That would be quite helpful. Furthermore, I would also hope that they would take the guidance of maybe profiling it under a different method. It seems strange that it’s parked there.

The only thing I would ask, then I think we could probably leave this page, is why was there such a jump between the ‘12-13 mains and the revised estimates. I mean, what actually changed in the game? We went from $473,000 to $739,000, so there was a significant change between the two of them, those two numbers between the mains and the revised. Thank you.