I will commit to researching, working with the Deh Cho Health and Social Services, to see exactly what type of medical services are needed in Wrigley, specifically nursing services, and get back to the Member on what is needed.
Debates of Feb. 25th, 2013
This is page numbers 2093 – 2142 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.
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Question 135-17(4): Need For Nurse In Wrigley
Oral Questions
Tu Nedhe
Question 135-17(4): Need For Nurse In Wrigley
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh
Mr. Speaker, the last time I went down this road, our government gave all kinds of reasons not to establish nursing services in Wrigley. I think here I was using the point that there is extra development and extra impact on the community of Wrigley because of the development in the Sahtu. That alone makes the case that we should examine the need for nursing in Wrigley. Can he also include the impacts of development on Wrigley in his assessment? Thank you.
Question 135-17(4): Need For Nurse In Wrigley
Oral Questions
Tu Nedhe

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Health and Social Services
Mr. Speaker, yes, we will look at the impacts of exploration that’s happening in the Sahtu on Wrigley when we examine the need for nursing in Wrigley. Thank you.
Question 135-17(4): Need For Nurse In Wrigley
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Question 135-17(4): Need For Nurse In Wrigley
Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche Nahendeh
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I am also well aware that our budget is very limited and stressed, as the Minister of Finance is quick to point out to Members on this side. Also, I think this strategy of introducing
nursing in Wrigley involves working with our federal counterparts.
Will the Minister also work with our federal counterparts to see if impact funding is needed for this development? That way, I think we can work towards getting nursing in Wrigley. Thank you.
Question 135-17(4): Need For Nurse In Wrigley
Oral Questions
Tu Nedhe

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Health and Social Services
Mr. Speaker, each time there’s an opportunity for the federal government to participate in any of our medical health services, we always take the opportunity to try to work with them. Yes, I can discuss this with our federal counterparts. Thank you.
Question 135-17(4): Need For Nurse In Wrigley
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Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
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Michael Nadli Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are to the Minister of the Housing Corporation. Just over the course of a few years, there has been a trend of people moving to the winter crossing. These are people that have gone through the housing programs, and most of the time they have been evicted or else they have arrears with the Housing Corporation. There have been noticeably several houses that have been sitting empty in Fort Providence that the Housing Corporation owns. How much longer will those empty houses sit there idle and empty? Mahsi.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
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The Speaker Jackie Jacobson
Thank you, Mr. Nadli. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. McLeod.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
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Inuvik Twin Lakes

Robert C. McLeod Minister Responsible for NWT Housing Corporation
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We do have a few empty houses in Fort Providence. There are a number of reasons people are evicted. Arrears is one of them. There could have been noise and disturbance, and a number of other issues that they are evicted from public housing. Usually there is opportunity there for them, if they enter into some kind of agreement, to try and get back on to the public housing waiting list and hopefully back into public housing.
Our goal as NWT Housing Corporation is to house people, not to evict them. But at the same time, as a partnership, they have to work with us. Many times we have exhausted all other options and eviction is the last resort. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
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Michael Nadli Deh Cho
I’d like to thank the Minister for outlining at least the process of trying to exhaust all options. The focus of my questioning is not so much the eviction practice but to try and highlight just the issue of arrears. Most of the time people are facing obstacles in small communities as it is, so it becomes an obstacle.
Will the NWT Housing Corporation remove the barriers of these obstacles standing between
homeless families and empty houses in Fort Providence? Mahsi.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
Oral Questions
Inuvik Twin Lakes

Robert C. McLeod Minister Responsible for NWT Housing Corporation
Mr. Speaker, the NWT Housing Corporation will do our part in trying to get people into units. At the same time, the clients themselves have to remove some of their own obstacles. In many cases all we ask is that they enter into some kind of an agreement with the LHO, and not only enter into it just to get back on the waiting list, but we would like them to honour it. We’ve seen situations in the past in a number of our communities, where a lot of clients that have been evicted have entered into a repayment plan or some kind of option with the LHO and they have honoured it. We’ve seen some success stories in that. A lot of times it is just a partnership that has to be worked out between the client and the local LHO.
I repeat again, Housing is not in the business of evicting people. We are in the business of housing them, but they have to work with us also. Thank you.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli Deh Cho
Mr. Speaker, will the arrears be adjusted for previous public housing tenants as they will be for current tenants, so they have at least a starting chance to restore their credit ratings and eligibility for housing programs? Mahsi.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
Oral Questions
Inuvik Twin Lakes

Robert C. McLeod Minister Responsible for NWT Housing Corporation
Mr. Speaker, no, we will not adjust their arrears. There have been opportunities in the past through a number of different programs where the arrears have been adjusted, the latest one being when it was transferred. The role of the assessment was transferred back to the Housing Corporation or the LHOs from ECE. A lot of adjustments were made at the time and there was a significant decrease in arrears.
Again, a lot of times it’s a matter of the client coming in, verifying their income, because if you don’t verify your income, you are automatically assessed at market rate and that tends to have their arrears build up. But there is always opportunity for adjustment. Again, verification of income is the biggest one. If they feel that they have been charged too much, then they can verify their income and adjustments will be made. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
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Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
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Michael Nadli Deh Cho
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Aside from evictions and looking at a repayment plan, at least there are options for clients or previous clients, what level of assurance can the Minister provide in terms of looking at some immediate options in terms of addressing people with arrears that want to get into the housing system? Mahsi.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
Oral Questions
Inuvik Twin Lakes

Robert C. McLeod Minister Responsible for NWT Housing Corporation
Mr. Speaker, the first thing that could happen is the tenants themselves
could make a point of going into the LHOs and working out some kind of plan with the local housing authority, and then they can honour the plan. I believe that once they do that and they show good faith, I think good faith will be shown on the LHO’s part.
As I said before, it is a partnership. We will work with them, but they have to be willing to work with us also. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 136-17(4): Addressing Rental Arrears In Fort Providence
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The Speaker Jackie Jacobson
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.
Question 137-17(4): Fortune Minerals And Tlicho Winter Road Alignment
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The realignment of the Tlicho winter road was Premier-directed, not a Cabinet initiative or brought forward by the Members-at-large as Caucus. It has been my understanding that there has been some type of formal instructions with Fortune Minerals about creating a year-round road out all the way to the community of Whati and even to Gameti.
I would like to ask the Minister of Transportation, if this is the case, what is actually happening out there that Regular Members have not been informed of. Thank you.
Question 137-17(4): Fortune Minerals And Tlicho Winter Road Alignment
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The Speaker Jackie Jacobson
Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. Ramsay.
Question 137-17(4): Fortune Minerals And Tlicho Winter Road Alignment
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Kam Lake

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We continue discussions with the Tlicho Government on the winter road realignment and trying to identify monies going forward to allow us to carry out that work. As far as the road the Member talks about to Fortune Minerals, nothing has been decided in that case. Thank you.
Question 137-17(4): Fortune Minerals And Tlicho Winter Road Alignment
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Speaker, as many of us know, this is approximately a 120-kilometre road which could run anywhere about a $2 million project. In speaking to some people who work for Fortune, they’ve coined it as a deal has been struck to work on a framework to do this road and that they’re planning for investment.
I’m trying to find out what has been struck in the form of a deal with Fortune Minerals in order to either build a road, lease back a road, or create a road. What is happening on this issue? Thank you.
Question 137-17(4): Fortune Minerals And Tlicho Winter Road Alignment
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Kam Lake

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation
Mr. Speaker, in my role as Minister of ITI I do meet frequently with industry representatives. I have met with Fortune Minerals a number of times in the past. Certainly, a road to the project is really fundamental to the project going ahead.
We haven’t signed any agreements. We haven’t entered into any negotiations on a road. None of this has happened. It’s all, I guess, just guesswork
on the Member’s part. When that does happen, you can rest assured Members of this House, the Member and his committee will know about it. Thank you.
Question 137-17(4): Fortune Minerals And Tlicho Winter Road Alignment
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Speaker, the Minister can say it’s guesswork on my part, but it was a Fortune Minerals person who told me they were in discussion with the Department of Transportation on this. So if he would like to change departments on the discussion, that’s up to the Minister. In this case, it happens to be the same person which obviously can mean it is.
Maybe for the record officially in this House, what work is being done on that road to the communities of Whati and Gameti and, specifically, how much has been the investment on that work to those communities, because I’m not aware of anything specifically asked for in any budget. I just want to make sure that’s clear in the House today.
Question 137-17(4): Fortune Minerals And Tlicho Winter Road Alignment
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Kam Lake

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation
Thank you very much. I’ll get that information for the Member. Thank you.