Agreed.
Debates of March 5th, 2013
This is page numbers 2333 – 2388 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.
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Some Hon. Members
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The Chair Daryl Dolynny
Page 6-15, Municipal and Community Affairs, information item, directorate, active positions.
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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
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The Chair Daryl Dolynny
Page 6-17, Municipal and Community Affairs, activity summary, public safety, operations expenditure summary, $1.629 million. Mr. Hawkins.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under the Fire Prevention Act, they appear to review plans for new construction. Can the Minister explain how this gets done if you happen to be somebody who lives in a community?
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Williams
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For reviewing of plans at the community level, we have assistant fire marshals in every region. They work closely with their plan review officer based in headquarters. That is the mechanism we use utilizing our AFMs at the regional level.
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Williams
We have assistant fire marshals in all five regions.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
How do we deal with site inspections on these particular initiatives? When the plans are submitted, sometimes site inspections are required.
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Williams
Our assistant fire marshals travel out to all communities in their regions. They do regular inspections as required and as requested. That’s the way we deliver service at the regional level.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
What is the cost of that particular travel based on, or who actually pays for it if you’re outside of the specific community the assistant fire marshal is placed?
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Williams
Each of our regional budgets has a travel budget allocated for community travel. Our role as MACA is to support community governments, so our travel budget dictates to that so we ensure it is in the work plan that we have community visits outlined on an annual basis of what communities we have to visit.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
What types of requirements or parameters are put on timely visits? There must be some constraints as to when something is filed and needs to be reviewed in person. What type of travel requirements or constraints around the code causes the travel or necessity to get out to site visits?
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Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Usually when there’s a request to have a site visit, we would go in. If the Member wants more detail, then I’d be happy to have a briefing note put together for him.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
I’d be happy to hear that. The travel is $165,000 on this under the public safety division, but I’m not sure if that’s all applied to fire prevention. Maybe if I could get a sense of what the travel budget is for the five regions that need to make these community visits.
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Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
I’m sure you’ll notice in MACA’s budget that we have travel in there, and part of our duties as MACA is to get out and visit all the communities and work with the communities as many times as is requested for us to go in and work with the communities. They prefer face to face as far as the public safety division goes. They have to go travel around for helping communities with their emergency plans and helping put together their emergency plans. We get a lot of requests from the communities for our staff to go in and meet with communities. That’s why our travel budgets are the way they are.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Under fire prevention section to do community visits on the five regions, what type of travel budget is associated with this?
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
Under emergency management, a few years ago one of the safety management people, personnel, under EMO section was laid off due to setbacks in the government. I think there were 100-and-some positions; 130 were originally eyed to be rolled away. I’m just wondering, under the scale-back, has emergency management grown or, specific to it, what is its present composition of personnel? I’ll start with that.
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Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes
I believe the actual positions are in the budget document a few more pages over. I’m not sure if the Member wants to wait until we get to 6-19 before I answer that question or should I just answer it now and say we’ve got six.
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Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre
The problem with page 6-19 is it doesn’t break it out in detail so you just see it as headquarter positions without that…(inaudible). What community or public activities do the emergency management folks take on about public engagement and planning, so that the public know and understand what they do, as well as public relationship of the preparation and planning for emergency measures? I suspect that this is a high intensity area where you spend a lot of time developing policy and relationships with community, community organizations, peoples, partners, et cetera.