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Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Beaulieu.

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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Tu Nedhe

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Health and Social Services

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We work with the various organizations across the territory that deal with children and adults with

various types of disabilities, including children with attention deficit hyperactivity, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, even autism and various other disabilities. We also, at the department, have some funding to work on these various disabilities. Thank you.

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Is the Minister aware of the vast discrepancy of funding for Autism Spectrum Disorder between NWT and other Canadian jurisdictions? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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Tu Nedhe

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Health and Social Services

No, I’m not aware that there is a vast discrepancy between the money that we provide as a government and the other governments across the country provide specifically for autism and Attention Deficit Disorder. I do recognize that it is fairly new work, but we are getting involved in many areas of this type of area where we’re starting to learn more about the impacts, and we’re learning more about the actual recognition or the prevalence of these various disabilities as we’re working at the national level with other jurisdictions. Thank you.

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

I’m disappointed that the Minister is not aware of the funding regimes between the NWT and other Canadian jurisdictions on Autism Spectrum Disorder.

If he’s not aware of it, would he direct the Department of Health and Social Services to review this issue that’s confronting the population of the NWT? Would he make an effort to ensure the public that this matter on Autism Spectrum Disorder will become a priority with the department, and that at some point he’ll report back to the House that a specific amount of funding will be allocated for this effort?

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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Tu Nedhe

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Health and Social Services

Like I indicated, we are getting more and more involved with this type of work. I don’t have the budget numbers here compared to the budget numbers of what the other jurisdictions are spending. I could easily get that information; I’m aware of that.

I know that as far as the Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder, we are pretty well at the same level with any jurisdiction across the country in our work. So specific to hyperactivity or attention deficit or autism, I don’t have that information, but my assumption is that we’re working with jurisdictions and we’re working with non-government organizations across the territory to try to support these individuals with their disabilities. Thank you.

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Nadli.

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the Minister commit to a yes or no, that at some point he’ll come back to the Assembly and give a specific number in terms of the value of priority of the GNWT on funding for Autism Spectrum Disorder? Mahsi.

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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Tu Nedhe

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Minister of Health and Social Services

Mr. Speaker, I can do that. I can provide the information to the House on our work in all of these areas. I don’t have a problem with that. I can provide information on the amount of money that we’re spending in these areas. I can compare that with what other jurisdictions are doing as well. Thank you.

Question 338-17(4): Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Member for Weledeh, Mr. Bromley.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Premier. I’d like to follow up on the discussion that he had with my colleague Mrs. Groenewegen yesterday on power and hydro grids and so on.

As we know, we’re approaching 25 to 30 cents, possibly greater – we have stipulated increases in our rates in this part of the Northwest Territories – whereas provincial rates are in the order of six or eight cents. I’m very disappointed that the Premier would encourage the impression that the Northwest Territories has any potential for selling power to the South. He mentioned the other big markets down there in Saskatchewan, BC and Alberta. Given our costs, and even with larger-scale developments, we could only sell power at a huge loss.

Would the Premier agree that it’s very irresponsible to leave the impression with the public that we would be selling power to the South and that this impression should be corrected? Mahsi.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wouldn’t think we’re misleading anybody. We are looking at a plan. We are looking at options and we have excess power. We are working on a business case. If the business case presents that it’s feasible to export power after we’ve looked at the northern demands first, then it’s something that we are looking at.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

We could use all the extra power ourselves. Economically that’s been demonstrated. For some reason we’re not; we’re using fossil fuels instead. Again, the Premier did not refute the fact that we have 30 cent power, they have six to eight cents power. We are not going to be selling, so this is a very irresponsible position to take.

In contrast, and I’ve talked to people in the Hydro Corporation and the NWT Power Corporation and they agree with that, of course. Has the Premier talked to those people in the Hydro Corporation and the NWT Power Corporation? Mahsi.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

I speak to them all the time. I speak to the Minister responsible for the NWT

Power Corporation all the time, and we are all working on developing a business case. We’re also developing the technical information to back it up.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you. I’m glad to hear the Minister is talking to our people. Building transmission lines is extremely expensive. ATCO, during the most recent Taltson fiasco, came up with about $750,000 per kilometre. Now we’re talking about building grids to the South at that rate. So that puts us in the many millions of dollars, in addition to our 30 cent kilowatt hour of power cost, so now we add that to that cost to sell our power to the South. Clearly, that’s not about to happen.

I’d like to ask the Premier what the cost of a transmission line to the South would be. What are the estimates?

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

That’s what we’re doing, is developing a business case. I expect that would be somewhere in the order of 500 to 700 million dollars. It would all depend on whether there’s a business case or not.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I hope that seals the deal. I hope this does correct the impression for the public.

The last question I have, very briefly, is: Has the Premier informed our public that if we do in fact connect to these grids and import power, that we will be importing primarily coal power, the dirtiest possible fuel and the most inefficient use of fuel to generate electricity and the most damaging of the fuels to climate change? Has the Premier informed the public about that aspect as well?

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Premier

I don’t follow his logic, but I’m not surprised that he’s not supportive of developing hydro, which is a very clean renewable resource. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 339-17(4): Exporting Northern Hydroelectric Power
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, Mr. Moses.

Question 340-17(4): Beaufort-Delta Ferry Service
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have questions today for the Minister of Transportation in regard to the ferry operations and the Dempster Highway, specifically working with the gas situation in Inuvik. I just want to get an update on what’s happening with the Mackenzie ferry and what are the timelines he’s looking at in terms of operations at the Mackenzie ferry. Thank you.

Question 340-17(4): Beaufort-Delta Ferry Service
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. Ramsay.

Question 340-17(4): Beaufort-Delta Ferry Service
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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

David Ramsay Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The operation in the Mackenzie Delta and in the Beaufort-Delta area is going to be enhanced this

coming winter. We’ve put $400,000 into upgrading the Louis Cardinal so that it can operate in winter conditions and in ice conditions. We’ve set up two spray pumps so the ice crossings can be prepared as soon as possible. The anticipation, Mr. Speaker, is we will run both the Abraham Francis and the Louis Cardinal. The Abraham Francis is a cable ferry able to operate in ice conditions. So we will run both of those ferries until we get the ice crossings in place.

This is going to be a great advantage to the residents in the region. They won’t be faced with higher prices for goods that have to be airlifted over and into the region. So I think it’s going to be very beneficial not only for the situation with the gas in Inuvik but also for the consumer in the region, I think, and businesses as well. This coming fall I think it’s going to be a tremendous advantage. Thank you.

Question 340-17(4): Beaufort-Delta Ferry Service
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

I know we’ve done some upgrades to the Louis Cardinal ferry at the Mackenzie Crossing. Have any upgrades or any enhancements been done to the Abraham Francis? I know it’s a smaller river and a smaller crossing, but would there been any disruptions in the crossing at the Abraham Francis that would affect all the investment that we put into the Louis Cardinal ferry to have a different impact on the opening of the road during this time?