Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When that program was originally designed, we did have a target that we were working to, which is about $3.8 million, and eventually to have that completely self-funded. We’re rapidly moving towards that. For today, technically the answer is yes. There is a cap of $3.8 million. But I am very interested and I’m sure that others are interested, that once we are fully self-sustaining on that project, it would only make sense to look at a way to continue to expand that and fund it, obviously from within as well. The more we can save, the more we can cap that up, but right now and until we reach that, that’s our target. When we reach it, we will certainly re-evaluate.

Thanks to the Minister. I think that’s exactly what I wanted to hear. As we go down the road, the low-hanging fruit hopefully will be taken care of and some of our building practices will ensure that we have top grade and we don’t need to be retrofitting with the same degree of frequency. It would be nice to know that there is some thought being given to build for the more chewier problems we have along the way.

I brought this up once before and I don’t believe I got a response, so perhaps Mr. Guy would have the term I’m seeking here. There is an American engineer’s standard for energy. It’s more stringent than the Good Building Practices for Northern Facilities in terms of energy. From my look at it from another engineer’s eyes, it totally makes sense to adopt, and is being adopted more and more. So I’m wondering if I could get the Minister to commit to have a look at that and consider going to that. It makes even more sense in the North than it does in other parts of North America. Again, it is more

stringent than the Good Building Practices for Northern Facilities. Thank you.

I’m just going back to the Capital Asset Retrofit Fund and I agree with what the Member is saying and I think we are both on the same page here. Having said that, we’re looking to get to the $3.8 million. Even when we do get to the $3.8 million, we aren’t stopping. We are going to continue to spend the money every year. It would be nice to see it grow, but let’s get to the target there first. As the Member knows, we already build to a higher degree than the Canadian Building Standards already, but I am interested to learn about this standard that the Member is talking about. Maybe we can get the Member to share with us the links so it will be a little easier for us to track it down. We, obviously, are always looking for ways to improve our buildings, to build buildings that are going to be more efficient and last longer in an affordable way. So I’m happy to have the department take a look at that and see if there’s anything we can steal. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Committee, we are on page 5-4, Public Works and Services, activity summary, asset management, infrastructure investment summary, infrastructure investments, $25.572 million. Committee agree?

Thank you, committee. Page 5-7, Public Works and Services, activity summary, Technology Services Centre, infrastructure investment summary, infrastructure investments, $2.023 million. Agreed?

Thank you, committee. Page 5-10, Public Works and Services, activity summary, petroleum products division, infrastructure investment summary, infrastructure investment, $910,000. Does committee agree? Mr. Blake.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just briefly, I wanted to thank the department for something that’s really needed in the small communities. Tsiigehtchic is expected to get a fuel delivery vehicle and we are glad to have that. There are times when the community is in need of a backup fuel truck. Sometimes the vehicles break down. It’s always good to have a backup. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Minister Abernethy.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The way we accommodate that is the old vehicle will become the backup. It will not be taken out of the community. We will continue to use it, and many years down the road, obviously, when it’s

time, the new vehicle would eventually become the backup and it still staggers out in that pattern.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Mr. Yakeleya.

A quick question, Mr. Chair. A tank safety valve device that we are putting into our tank farm, I know there was some issue with the Fort Good Hope specific parts and it caused some leakage to the community, to the department, and we had some issues with that. Is that somewhat being corrected? We had some losses in terms of quantity of fuel being spilled onto the ground there.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Abernethy.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, it’s been completely resolved. There was some issue with some of the valves. There were some faulty valves that happened to be in Fort Good Hope and that was brought to your attention and you and I discussed it. We’ve dealt with that and we’ve looked at the valves that were bought that were similar, to make sure there were no more faulty valves out there. For a little more detail on that, I will go to Deputy Minister Guy, please.

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy. Mr. Guy.

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Yakeleya.

Mr. Chair, the Minister and deputy minister are correct on the issue here. I’m glad to hear that. I would remind the Minister that when there are issues like this, because we were caught off guard when we went to Fort Good Hope… Actually, we drove to the tank farm and we saw this. I wasn’t aware of it until I actually drove to the tank farm. If there is any type of reporting of future fuel spills, I would appreciate being notified by the department.

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Mr. Abernethy.

I remember how frustrating it can be not having the information and I apologized to the Member for that already and I will apologize again. It was a bit of a communication

error and we will make sure that when I know, you know. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

We’re on page 5-10, Public Works and Services, activity summary, petroleum products division. Mr. Bromley.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. There’s quite a drop in the budget that we see here, especially in the large capital projects in this division. I know this division is possessed about dealing only with fossil fuels and not opening the door to renewable energy, so they have a big expense for fuel tank storage. It needs to be secure. We’ve heard from my colleague about cleanup costs and so on, but there seems to be a lull, which I’m happy to see. Does that mean we have caught up now in our need to do renovations to fuel tanks and so on associated with the petroleum products division and we can enjoy a lull for a few years in those expenditures, and maybe even longer if we switched to biomass? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Abernethy.