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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Vician. Committee, I believe that concludes general comments. Are we agreed?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, committee. We will move on to detail. If we could

look at page 12-7, the summary page. We will defer this page and move on to page 12-8, Industry, Tourism and Investment, information item, infrastructure investment summary. Any questions?

Thank you, committee. We will move on to page 12-9, Industry, Tourism and Investment, information item, revenue summary. Any questions? Mr. Dolynny.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have just two quick questions on here. Actually, just one. I see the amortization of the capital contributions. This has been an ongoing line entry from 2011 to 2012, now 2013. With the straight line depreciation of capital and with the new debt definitions that we’ve had in the last year, I was surprised to see that debt number is the same number. Things fall off, assets fall off, and those numbers should be changing with every fiscal year. Can the Minister verify if indeed that number is accurate? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Ms. Magrum, please.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Magrum

Thank you, Madam Chair. The amortization of capital contributions is for the current amortization portion for gifted assets. We have a gifted asset in Fort Simpson. It was a building that was gifted to us by the federal government. As well, we have some gifted assets through the federal stimulus projects in 2011 and 2012.

In straight line amortization, until an asset is fully amortized, the amount will be the same every year until the asset is fully amortized. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

Madam Chair, I thank Ms. Magrum for that. Can we get an indication as to when the anniversary date of that amortization will be falling off the books? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Magrum

I would have to get back to the Chair on that item.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

The other question I have is with respect to the egg marketing levy. Can we get an explanation as to what exactly this line entry is? It’s a new one for this year. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Magrum

The egg marketing levy is a portion that is charged on our egg producer. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daryl Dolynny

Daryl Dolynny Range Lake

I would assume that is a levy, but is it for packaging? Is it for marketing? Can we get a bit more of an explanation of why there is that levy? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you. I’ll go to the deputy minister, Mr. Vician.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Peter Vician

Thank you, Madam Chair. The egg marketing regulations that fall under the Agricultural Products Marketing Act require that egg producers pay an egg marketing levy to the Agricultural

Products Marketing Council. That ratio is .016 dollars per dozen. It is a requirement that was established at the beginning when the act and the regulations were put in place. Payments to levy are met each quarter, and they’re shown as revenue, so it’s essentially a fee as part of receiving the quota for the production of eggs in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Vician. Are there any other questions on page 12-9? Mr. Bromley.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Madam Chair, just to follow up on that, is that something we then pass on to that council or is it a benefit to this government? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Mr. Vician, please.

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Peter Vician

Thank you, Madam Chair. That’s a revenue that accrues to the GNWT and is used for the purpose of agricultural expenditures. Again, it’s revenue to the GNWT, so the appropriation would define an expenditure. As the committee knows, a significant investment is made in the agricultural branch, so we would attribute part of that revenue possibly being accounted for in the agricultural expense. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you. Any other comments or questions on page 12-9? Mr. Hawkins.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to pick up where Mr. Dolynny left off on a particular issue, the egg marketing levy. It actually draws a different type of question for me but on the same kind of idea.

There are a few people who raise chickens in the Yellowknife area and some of them actually sell eggs. What type of requirements are the cut-off where you can be in that business? What does the department know? Are you able to sell a hundred dozen eggs? Any more than a hundred dozen means you have to get in a business? Are there different types of health standard requirements around that? There are a couple of people in the city, as well, who have chickens running around in their yards. So I’m curious as to what type of influence, enforcement and regulation does the department have in that regard. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Wendy Bisaro

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Mr. Vician.

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Peter Vician

Thank you, Madam Chair. The act and the regulations define commercial production. At this point in time, if a party wishes to enter into commercial production for the purpose of sale, they are required to register under the Egg Marketing Regulations. That requires the party to deal with the council.

At this point in time, we have about 123,000 layers allocated and 100 percent of that quota less approximately about 6,000 layers has been allocated to parties across the Northwest Territories. There remain a small allocation of 6,000 layers for the purpose of interest of any other producers or new entrants that wish to get into the market.

At this point in time, on the specifics of a party here in Yellowknife, I’m not aware of the commercial operation, but those opportunities exist still in the Northwest Territories and the party would deal with the council to seek that authority. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Maybe I’ll say it for the record, the layers are chickens that lay eggs, which sounds obvious, but that said, if anyone follows this closely as I do they may have wondered what that is.

If the deputy minister could elaborate a little more on the council, their role, who’s on the council, explain where the council’s authority comes from and what the relationship is with the general public. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Peter Vician

Madam Chair, I should have referred to the board. The members of the Egg Producers Board as of 2012 are Jackie Milne, Roy Fabien, Michael Wallington, John Penner, Glenn Wallington and Bruce Ramage. They make up the Egg Producers Board, and they review the issue of allocation and responsibility for compliance with the regulations pursuant to the act. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Are they all out of the Hay River area? What type of public relationship do they have in the sense of letting people know what they do, who they are, who will they meet? Are we really talking about a board that governs production just in Hay River and would they qualify as a territorial board in that regard, or are they just a Hay River board looking after a niche market?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Peter Vician

No, not all are residents of Hay River. Chief Fabien, of course, with the Katlodeeche band; Mr. Penner is an operator out of British Columbia who currently has operational authority for the barn in Hay River; Mr. Ramage is an Alberta resident but has previous ownership of the barn in Hay River; Mike Wallington and Glen Wallington, of course, out of Hay River; and Jack Milne, with the agriculture community in Hay River as well. Their responsibility, as I said, is to oversee adherence to the requirements for managing the quota in the Northwest Territories. The Minister makes those appointments, and in terms of process, they continue to provide reports to the department and an annual report is tabled in this Legislature under the Agricultural Products Act as required under legislation. Thank you, Madam Chair.