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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Young

As I said, the policy is intended for use of an expense that’s incurred that a community government could not plan for, could not anticipate and cannot absorb within their financial resources that they have. Since the New Deal was implemented in 2007, most community governments have access to funding that can deal with most things that do arise. We actually haven’t seen an application that met the criteria of this policy funded since prior to 2007.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. The next question was going to be, could I have some recent examples. So I guess there are none. Followed by, I guess the only other question of that is what would be considered a normal example if the New Deal trumps this? What’s left to apply for? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. We’ll go to Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As Ms. Young said, the last time it was used I think it was prior to 2007 and it was for a landslide in Fort Smith, but the Member is correct in talking about with the New Deal is there anything left we can fund. So we’ll have to go back and have a look at it, and if there’s an opportunity to remove it from this

or re-profile it, then I think we’ll have to go that direction. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

I’m trying to understand why it would be still there since 2007. I could see 2008 may make sense, maybe even 2009, but considering the fact that, if I understand it correctly, we’re six budget cycles in and it hasn’t been used in six budget cycles. So why has it been left there? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. I take full responsibility for that because I’ve been Minister of MACA for going on four years now. So I should have been able to pick that up. But I will commit to the Members that we’ll review this $168,000 and if there’s an opportunity to re-profile it or take it out completely, then we’ll do that. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. I look forward to that commitment and update.

Under contribution funding, we have contributions to the NWT Association of Communities and Local Government Administrators, as well as the Arctic Energy Alliance. Now is a good time to sort of ask what does our contribution work towards. Is it base funding or what type of accountability does our funding provide and what type of relationship have we struck with this, other than being a funding source? In some cases I know we sit on the board and I want to know what relationship. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. The Arctic Energy Alliance, our deputy is actually the vice-chair of the alliance and we’re with LGANT and NWTAC. The money goes towards base funding and we have a really good working relationship with LGANT and NWTAC. We rely on them a lot because they do represent the administrators for pretty well all of our communities and councillors and mayors from all of our communities. So we rely on them, we work with them very closely on initiatives and some things we run by them. They have their annual general meetings, they put motions forward, they submit them and we have a look at them. So we have a great working relationship with these organizations. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Our contribution, do we have any requirements attached to it? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. They have a requirement to report to us on an annual basis.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

What does that actually mean? Do they have to file a report, do they have to do a presentation? I’m trying to understand that. We’ve heard these stories before about annual reporting and we found that several places had been late in their annual reporting. So I’m trying to understand what are they required to report back with and in what form. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. Reporting on an annual basis means they have to report to us once a year and there’s a number of requirements. We have audits and we work very closely with them and advancing some of the issues of the people from the Northwest Territories. So we do have some requirements. If the Member wants a hard copy of some of the requirements we have with these funding partners, then I’d be pleased to provide it to him.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Would the Minister be willing to provide that? I know he alluded to if I wanted it. So that is the request.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. We’d be willing to provide a copy.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Under Arctic Energy Alliance under contribution funding, I think the Minister had mentioned that Deputy Minister Williams here sits as vice-chair. What’s the role of MACA on the particular board? I don’t want to say the Arctic Energy Alliance is an NGO, but they are sort of akin to one. If government is all on the board or assaulted the board with government reps all through it, where is the role of the public and the public help guiding it? I’m just trying to understand how government funds it, but lets it go, but manages it, but it’s independent. So I’m trying to get a sense of their role here. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. For that we’ll go to Mr. Williams.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Williams

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess our role in the Arctic Energy Alliance, we’re a contributing member that has voting rights. They also have other memberships where we have industry reps that sit, like Avalon Industries sits on the board, it’s made up of not all GNWT representation, but also we’ll have it open up to industry and others such as the Power Corp sits on there as well. Our role is set in policy. We’re a voting member, we guide the organization to make decisions. We just recently had a board meeting just a couple of days ago with full attendance. Representation at that meeting was the NWT Association of Municipalities, the Power Corporation, we had Public Works and Services, ENR, MACA, and Avalon, I believe, was on the call. Basically setting direction and approving work plans for the future of the operation. So we let the administration look after the day-to-day activities, but we’re more the guiding board to guide the activities. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Williams. Mr. Hawkins, one last supplemental.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The deputy minister was very helpful in providing a bit of a list as to who is on there. Perhaps I could get a formal copy of who sits on this board of governance. I’m just trying to understand what does

voting rights mean in this particular case. So if I could get a list of its membership as well as its membership activity. So, in other words, I think he’d mentioned Avalon being a rep, but obviously Avalon is not government. So are there two or three seats signed to industry, other agencies, et cetera? I’m just trying to get a sense of their role on why they’re there and if he could explain what voting rights mean in this regard. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. All of the information that the Member is asking for is on the website. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Hawkins, your time is up. I will go to Ms. Bisaro.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I just have one question here and it involves the Arctic Energy Alliance. We, and I can’t remember in how many other budgets, but I think certainly within ENR the government provides a contribution to the Arctic Energy Alliance. So I’m trying to understand why we have a contribution here under MACA and another contribution under ENR and maybe somewhere else. I can’t quite remember; it might be in ITI as well. Why do we as a government not make one contribution to Arctic Energy Alliance in one place, one department for wherever the government decides it should be? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. For that we’ll go to Ms. Young.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Young

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The departments that belong to Arctic Energy Alliance all have four membership fees and then there are other programs that government departments sponsor and provide money to AEA for.

You may remember a few years ago there was community energy planning funding dedicated in the MACA budget where we provided $150,000 a year to the Arctic Energy Alliance to support energy planning in communities. That money has since sunsetted, but other departments continue to fund specific programs within the alliance.