This is page numbers 4847 – 4890 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. I’m assuming the Member is speaking to all units across the Northwest Territories that were converted to public housing. If he is, we don’t have those numbers with us right now, but we can get those numbers and provide it to the Member in committee. I will hand it over to Mr. Stewart to speak of six units I believe we have in Detah/Ndilo that we’re planning on converting to public housing.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Stewart.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

David Stewart

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, there are three units in Detah and three in Ndilo that we are planning on converting to public housing. We’re working with the LHO now to identify units that will go off the stock, some of the older units that are there. I know there is a big desire in the communities as well as on our part to get that finished, but we have to also respect that people are living in units. So, it’s not easy necessarily to move folks around, but we are working directly with the LHO to get them into the public housing stock. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Stewart. Mr. Bromley.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think the Minister’s offer might be of interest to the Members, too, but just on those older units, I’m assuming they are beyond use, would we be expecting replacement units to be on the capital plan in the near future? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As we put those six into stock, we have to take six out and they’re replaced. So they’ll replace six older units because we just don’t have the funds from CMHC, again, to deal with that. There’s a lot of CMHC numbers that were tied to particular pieces of infrastructure. So we put six in and we take six out. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

It just seems a little bit caddy-wonky. On the surface it seems right, but given that there’s nobody there that can take advantage of those six homeownership units, they’re not really part of the public housing stock. Obviously, there’s a need there to replace the units where people already are. So I’ll just leave it at that. I don’t want to take up too much time on this, but I look forward to this Community Needs Survey that we’re getting a briefing on in the next week for further discussion. So I’ll leave it at that. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

October 20th, 2014

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. I didn’t hear a question there, but I’ll allow the Minister a final comment here. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will take it as a comment, and of course, we’ll be updating the Member on any changes that might be happening in his riding. But we’ll take it as a comment.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Again, committee, we’re on page 58, and continuing on with detailed questions I have Mr. Blake.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As I mentioned earlier, I see a lot of things happening in the Mackenzie Delta region. I’m thankful for that.

I’d just like to ask the Minister, I don’t see anything on here for Tsiigehtchic and I mentioned that there’s a unit that needs retrofit. So would that fall under O and M because it was a current unit? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don’t know, we’ve got a couple of major M and I’s that are slated for Tsiigehtchic. I don’t have the exact, but this year we have two major M and I’s that are slated for Tsiigehtchic. As to the details of which units those are, I don’t have that right now. It may or may not include the unit that the Member is speaking about. So, we’ll get the details as to what two units they’re planning on doing major retrofits on. I think over the next couple of years we have four major M and I’s that are going into Tsiigehtchic. So whether that includes the burned unit or not, I’m not quite sure. I’ll get the details and share it with the Member. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. I look forward to that information. Moving forward, are there any plans for another multiplex unit for Tsiigehtchic and also Aklavik as well? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. We have no new units that are slated for Tsiigehtchic this year or the next year, I believe it’s the next year too. There’s nothing slated for Tsiigehtchic or identified for Tsiigehtchic this year. We’ve got the two major retrofits and that’s our investment in Tsiigehtchic this year.

As far as a long-term plan, as I responded to Mr. Bromley before, we’re looking at a Community Needs Survey to help us identify where some of our strategic investments have to be.

In Aklavik we have two replacement units going into Aklavik this year; as well, we’ve got some major M and I’s that are going there. I think we just had a couple of market units go in there in the last couple of years, plus you’ve got the new Joe Greenland Centre and then you’ve got those five duplexes we just put in there. So there you go. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. Yes, a lot of nice buildings coming up in Aklavik. I was wondering if the Minister would know if one of those replacement units is Bennett Apartments. As the Minister knows, it was probably built in the time that he lived there and that was quite some time ago.

---Laughter

If the Minister could answer that, thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. Again, I’m not sure of that particular one. The bones in the unit itself are pretty good. So if there’s some work that

needs to be done in there, I’m sure the LHO will identify it, but it’s about 20 years old, I believe, 20 or 25 years old. The structure itself is still pretty sound and if there is some major work that needs to be done in there, then the local housing organization will identify it, but I don’t know, again, the details for sure. We’ll find out exactly what the plan is for there.

Our numbers we have are pretty high level numbers, as far as the actual house numbers and the details of what’s being replaced in the community, that’s a decision that we will work with local housing organizations to see if there are some units that they want out of stock and we can replace them with some of the newer units. They’re in a better position to tell us what works and doesn’t work in the community.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Committee, again, we’re on page 58 of the capital estimates. Finance and infrastructure services, information item, any questions? Seeing none, again committee, if you’d be kind enough to go back to page 57, NWT Housing Corporation. This is just an information item only, any questions?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Seeing none. Does committee agree we have concluded consideration of NWT Housing Corporation?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, committee. I’d like to thank Minister McLeod, Mr. Stewart and Mr. Anderson for joining us this evening. If I can get the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witnesses out of the Chamber, thank you.

We are going to continue on with the NWT capital estimates with Municipal and Community Affairs. With that, I will turn it over to the Minister responsible. Mr. Minister, do you have any witnesses you would like to bring into the House? Minister McLeod.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I do.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Does committee agree?