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Committee Motion 146-17(5): Bill 64: An Act To Amend The Co-Operative Associations Act - Amendment To Clause 23, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

October 6th, 2015

Robert Hawkins

Robert Hawkins Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It`s not my intent to continue this all night, so I’ll just be quick. I know there’s no willingness on the department to make that change and we have to be very clear, distracted driving at the time is equal if not worse than drunk driving. I`m not a scientist and I`m not going to try to explain which one’s worse, I’m just going to say equal, for safety’s sake.

At the moment that particular individual stopped, the crime itself has been stopped, they’re no longer impaired in the sense of mental impairment of driving has been taken away and I think that’s probably some of the reasoning behind why they’re allowed to drive home and park their car until their suspension type of thing or philosophy built behind it.

I pointed out the social ill or the nature of it is that there was a time that drunk driving was not, I’m not going to say it was okay, it didn’t have the stigma it does have today. Distracted driving is the same way, it’s just I’m not convinced the department sort of sees it through the demerit point process that it observes and waiting for someone to have five fines before they have to visit a judge to explain that they’re driving in a manner that is just equal if not worse than drunk driving. I think my point is if the demerit points were increased, they’d be visiting them either after the second or third offence. So that’s the only other thing.

The last comment I’ll make very briefly because I see my time has run down, and it’s not necessarily a question, I’m just glad we’re giving the registrar some authorities to make some changes in regulations around abandoned vehicles. The only issue I’ll raise there is that I’ve had people here who have had concerns about trying to repurpose, revitalize old vehicles that have been written off, lost, found in the dump or whatnot, and for them to be able to reissue registration so they can put a little life back into a rebuilt old vehicle. The way I understood it was they would have that ability to do that. So that’s the only other area of concern and I assume they’ll want to reply, but unless it’s earth shattering, I’d probably leave the Minister with the final comment. Thank you.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. There was a bit of a question in that first part and I’ll allow Minister Beaulieu to reply.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We would look at that. Right now we’re moving forward with the three demerit points, a suspension of fines, and the main purpose of the act is to stop distracted driving. It’s not to punish people, it’s to stop distracted driving. So, if we had no distracted driving, the act would be a good act.

What we’re doing is we’re putting forward a bill that we think is going to do that at this point. If it doesn’t work, then we’re prepared to look at other options as well.

For the abandoned vehicles, I’ll ask Mr. Loutitt to take that. Thank you.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. Mr. Loutitt.

Loutitt

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We’ve looked at the abandoned vehicle problem and we’ve met with our stakeholders, including yourself, and took suggestions and then went to the jurisdictions and looked at what the problems were. We found this to be a fairly unique northern problem. In many jurisdictions you can call a company to come and pick up your vehicle and give you money and take it away. In the North, where these vehicles are being abandoned, we looked at this as an opportunity to not only work with the towing companies to dispose of the vehicles but also the opportunity to change the ownership so that the vehicles can be fixed up, repaired and put back on the road safely. I think it’s a good example of us working with stakeholders to come up with a good solution and we’re going to build a regulation around it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Loutitt, and again I congratulate your folks on doing that. Committee, general comments. I have Ms. Bisaro.

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have a brief comment that I want to make. I’ve been pushing for eight years, not so much lately because we’ve had a change to the Motor Vehicles Act, but certainly in the 16thAssembly I pushed very hard to get some change to the Motor Vehicles Act relative to distracted driving and I’m very pleased to see that we are increasing the fines and adding suspensions. With the change that was originally made, it was almost as if people just totally ignored it and we had almost as many people driving distractedly as we had before we made the original amendment to the Motor Vehicles Act. So, whatever we can do to bring it down the better, and I’m really pleased to see these amendments in here. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. There was more of a comment there, but I will allow the Minister a formal reply. Minister Beaulieu.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to thank the Member as well.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. General comments. Is committee prepared to go clause by clause?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Committee, there are 50 clauses to this bill. Is committee prepared to take them in groups of 10?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, committee. I heard concurrence. Thank you, committee. Again, we’re going to defer the bill title until we’ve finished clause-by-clause. We’re going to start at clauses 1 to 10. Is committee agreed?

---Clauses 1 through 50 inclusive approved

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Does committee agree that Bill 60, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act, is ready for third reading?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Committee, we’re going to have to do that over again because your chairman forgot the number. So, Bill 60, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act, No. 2, as a whole.

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Does committee agree that Bill 60, An Act to Amend the Motor Vehicles Act, No. 2, is ready for third reading?

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, committee. Bill 60 is now ready for third reading. Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. Thank you, Mr. Loutitt, Mr. Neudorf and Mr. Chutskoff for joining us this evening. If I could get the Sergeant-at-Arms to please escort the witnesses out of the Chamber. Thank you. Mr. Bromley.

Bob Bromley

Bob Bromley Weledeh

Thank you. I move we report progress.

---Defeated

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Order, committee. Committee, we’re going to continue on with House business. Bill 61, An Act to Amend the Public Airports Act. With that, we’ll turn it over to the Minister responsible, Minister Beaulieu.

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’m pleased to introduce Bill 61, An Act to Amend the Public Airports Act, which proposes to address six areas in legislation aimed at improving how we operate airports throughout the NWT and to clarify sections of the Public Airports Act.

The bill proposes to increase the duration of leases on Commissioner’s public airports land from 20 years to 30 years so tenants will be able to amortize leasehold improvements over longer periods. Such extensions will provide consistency with maximum amortization periods typically offered by lending agencies.

The bill proposes amendments that prescribe new procedures through which an airport manager would be able to take possession of unclaimed property left at airports for storage, sale or disposal.

The bill also proposes amendments to provide enforcement officers at the airport with authority similar to highway transport officers to enforce the Motor Vehicles Act, the Public Airports Act and other regulations that apply to public airport land. To achieve harmonization with the Motor Vehicles Act, the bill proposes the maximum fine for offences under the Public Airports Act to be increased from $2,000 to $5,000. As well, the regulation of traffic and pedestrians on public airport

land will be addressed under the Motor Vehicles Act, allowing for several repetitive provisions to be removed from the Public Airports Act.

Finally, the proposed bill will improve the act’s clarity and rehabilitee. Thank you.

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Minister Beaulieu. We’ll turn our attention to the chairman responsible for the standing committee for reviewing the bill. Mr. Hawkins.