This is page numbers 6021 – 6060 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Minister Lafferty.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. We are seriously looking at the Sahtu region, especially with the downturn of the oil and gas operations in that region and what will be the implications on those community members. Are they going to be accessing income security programming? How many individuals are we talking about? We can definitely give you the detailed breakdown for the last two years and going onwards because we need to monitor this. This is part of our Skills for Success, as well, the needs analysis that we have done, the needs assessment, how can we integrate those individuals to be trained for future projects.

I will get Mr. Dana Heide to elaborate a little bit more. There have been some changes that we have made as well. Mahsi, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Mr. Heide.

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Heide

Thank you, Mr. Chair. If I can use Colville Lake, a family of four, as an example of our food increases projected over the next four years, moving from $1,061 today to $1,435 April 1st ;

$1,744 April 1, 2016, and ending in ‘17-18 at $1,996. That is just the food allowance for a family of four, reflective of the actual cost of food in Colville.

The clothing allowance will move from $226 currently for a family of four up to $293. The incidental allowance over the four years will move from $129 for a family of four in Colville Lake to $229 for a family of four in Colville Lake.

The way we have implemented increasing the food allowances across the Territories by every community was a different distance from a true market basket measure, and so we have moved the communities that are farthest away from a true market basket measure up quicker than those that are closer to the market basket measure. Colville is a good example of a community that was farthest away and we are moving it closer at a quicker pace than other communities, but we can provide all the communities and all the changes at all the communities in all the different areas for the Member. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Heide. Mr. Yakeleya.

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Norman Yakeleya

Norman Yakeleya Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the additional information and thank the Minister for the commitment to look at the issue in the Sahtu. I realize that there is some work that is needed to be done, and certainly through the assistant deputy minister, you guys have come through with some good numbers for us in the communities. We appreciate that.

I guess the point that I want to make, there are certain individuals in our communities that certainly look forward to the help in seniors’ heating subsidies or the early child benefit or even student financial services and the income assistance as required by some of our people. The main point that I want to close off, is that we want to contribute to our own well-being in the region. We appreciate that government is there. It takes a lot of money every year for our government to commit to the needs in our region and we want to have them move off a dependency type of an attitude and so we want to pay our own way in society, contribute to society. That is what happens when you don’t have economic development happening in our region. We become dependent on government. They become our bank, so to speak. We would like to move away from that and pay our own way through society. I am going to leave it at that. I have no questions for the Minister. I just wanted to make note of that. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. I will treat that as a final comment. Committee, income support. I think I have Ms. Bisaro.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have one other question that I forgot earlier around the Student Financial Assistance program, and certainly it has been mentioned a number of times over the years that I have been here. It seems to be, up to this point, the department has basically said no, we can’t do it, but I am referring to students who leave high school, who are not ready yet to go on to a post-secondary institution, no matter what it might be, whether it be a technical institution or whether it might be a college or a university. They require some upgrading of the courses that they have taken in high school. My understanding, to date, is that student financial assistance is not available for students who happen to be doing upgrading.

I would like to know from the Minister if that is the case, and if that is the case, is there any appetite on behalf of the department, as Mr. Heide put it and hopefully there is, is there any appetite to open up financial assistance to those of our NWT residents who wish to do upgrading so they can get into the program of their choice? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. For that response I will go to Mr. Heide.

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Heide

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Currently the SFA program is restricted to post-secondary studies only. If a student is doing upgrading of high school classes, they wouldn’t be eligible for student financial assistance. Currently, under the Skills for Success, one of our areas that we are looking at is supports to learners. One of the suggestions we’ve had over time is adult ed upgrading should have a student financial assistance-like program attached to it, and we’ll be exploring that as we move forward with the Skills for Success.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Heide. I am very glad to hear that there is something being considered. It doesn’t have to be under Student Financial Assistance. So, if there is an opportunity for a student who needs upgrading before they can go on to a post-secondary institution and there is financial supports available to them through the Skills for Success or whatever other program, that’s a great thing.

When might people expect that that support, that program would be up and running? Thank you.

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Heide

Our current schedule for Skills for Success would be to table the framework in June of this year. Following that and following discussions with Members and input from Members, we will develop an action plan that will move forward on a systematic basis as funding is available.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks. I’ll just confirm there’s no money in this budget, I presume, for this kind of a program, and is the department aiming for money to support upgrading students in the ‘16-17 budget? Thank you.

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Heide

As always, we will be looking across our department to spend our money we currently have wisely, before we come back for more money, but we are definitely looking at providing adequate supports to students and learners.

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Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

When?

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Heidi

As I stated, we will have the framework by June of this year and an action plan that will detail when following that.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thanks. I guess I have to wait for the action plan. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Committee, we’re on page 71, income security, operations expenditure summary, $43.424 million. Does committee agree?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, committee. Page 72, income security, grants, contributions and transfers, total grants, $11.136 million.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you. Page 73, income security, active positions, information item. Any questions? Ms. Bisaro.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wendy Bisaro

Wendy Bisaro Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I see an increase of five positions here. Can I be advised what they are? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daryl Dolynny

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Lafferty.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Jackson Lafferty

Jackson Lafferty Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. We made some changes to our income security area where we want to have people entering the workforce as part of our target initiative, and we have five employment services officers into the regions. We have slated one for each of these communities: Fort Smith, Inuvik, Norman Wells, Fort Simpson and Behchoko. So, five in total. Mahsi.