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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Department, Education, Culture and Employment. Appropriation authority required, $101,111,000. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Earlier we heard from the Minister’s opening remarks that this is a status quo arrangement for the first quarter of 2016-2017. I just want to ask, for ECE, for where income security programs are located. The Minister also mentioned that, on average, the first quarter spending for each of the departments is about 31 per cent, but can the Minister tell me whether income security is at that level or if there is any variance there. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, for that I would like to go to Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Minister Moses.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The money that the department is asking for, the $101.1 million to cover the operational expense requirements for the first three months of the fiscal year April 1, 2016, to June 30, 2016, was based on budget amounts from the 2015-2016 Main Estimates, which was $309,786,000, plus the approved fiscal year 2016-2017 amounts from Supplementary Appropriations 1 and 2. Overall, ECE's interim appropriation of $101.1 million is approximately 33 per cent of the 2015-16 base appropriations, including the interim appropriation as forced growth associated with the income assistance that the Member is asking about. In addition, the interim appropriation also increases adjustments to Student Financial Assistance Programs for student financial grant increases. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mr. Chair, I appreciate the Minister's response. Can he provide, then, some assurance that there is really no change in the income assistance and SFA programs in the first quarter for 2016-2017 as compared to the previous year? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod. Mr. Aumond.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Aumond

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The amounts for those two include what was approved in the Main Estimates for 2016-2017 and also in consideration of that proportional amount that would have been included in the supplementary estimates for those two items for the 2015-2016 year. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Aumond. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mr. Chair, I’m not sure I am getting my question across the best way I can then, perhaps. For income assistance, student financial assistance, what are the proportions of the total spending that we are looking at in the first quarter? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Kalgutkar.

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Kalgutkar

Thank you, Mr. Chair. For the total Income Security Program, which had a 2015-2016 budget of $43 million, for the interim period we are looking for $9 million or about 20 per cent of that. That is broken down into two main areas: income assistance, which is about $29 million for 2015-2016, and for the interim period, we are asking about $7.2 million, which is about 25 per cent of that budget; and for SFA, it is about less than 13 per cent of that 2015-2016 budget. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is helpful. I guess now we are getting somewhere. We are talking about maybe 20 per cent of the income security envelope being spent in the first quarter. Earlier, in the Minister's statement, he mentioned that we are looking at about 31 per cent on average. Why are we at 20 per cent for income security as opposed to 31 per cent throughout the rest of the departments on average? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Aumond.

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Aumond

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member is correct. It is about 31 per cent on average across government. There may be programs where you may require less or more, depending on the nature of the program. In regards to income support in the first quarter of the year, the demand for income support, given that those non-winter months are not as much as you would see if you were looking at the third quarter, which would be more than the 30 per cent, because of the amounts provided for heat, for example for that income support component. So that is not required for the first quarter. Therefore, the department is not asking for that appropriation at this time. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Aumond. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Now that is starting to make some sense for me. Finally, to close it off then, we are not looking at any substantive change between what we spent in 2015-2016 in the first quarter for income assistance and student financial assistance as opposed to what is being proposed in 2016-2017. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister McLeod.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Member is correct.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly. Are there further comments or questions? Seeing none, we will proceed with the item. Department, Education, Culture, and Employment. Appropriation authority required, $101,111,000.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.