This is page numbers 409-454 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Thanks to your witnesses for appearing before us today. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses from the Chamber.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

We have concluded consideration of Education, Culture and Employment. We will now turn to the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. I'll turn to the Minister responsible for any opening comments. Minister Schumann.

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June 7th, 2016

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you. I'm pleased to present the 2016-17 main estimates for the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. Overall, the department's estimate proposes a net increase of $4.3 million, or five per cent, over the 2015-2016 Main Estimates. These estimates have taken into consideration the priorities and the mandate of the 18th Assembly while responding to the need to be fiscally responsible. Highlights of the proposed estimates include:

● $5.9 million increase in the budget for suppression of wildland fires;

● $1.6 million for the continued implementation of the Water Stewardship Strategy, including the implementation of transboundary water agreements with British Columbia and Alberta and the negotiation of similar agreements with Yukon and Saskatchewan;

● a net increase of $311,000 for the expansion of the hydrometric network in the Northwest Territories; and

● $2 million decrease in departmental spending.

The proposed Department of Environment and Natural Resources estimates supports the priorities of the 18thAssembly, including:

● collaborating and fostering government-to-government relations with Aboriginal governments;

● improving food security by encouraging local food production, traditional harvesting, effective co-management of caribou herds and other wildlife;

● investing in renewable resources, agriculture, arts, fisheries, forestry, manufacturing, tourism, and other traditional harvesting;

● improving coordination and effectiveness in resource management systems, recognizing traditional knowledge, land claim agreements, and devolution; and

● implementing a strategy to mitigate and adapt to climate change in collaboration with other governments and organizations.

This budget includes a number of significant actions which will help the Government of the Northwest Territories achieve these priorities:

● The Department of Environment and Natural Resources, or ENR, will continue to collaborate with Aboriginal governments to complete the next phase of regulation-making under the Wildlife Act.

● ENR will continue to collaborate with Aboriginal governments, co-management boards, and

neighbouring

jurisdictions to protect and conserve our barrenground and boreal caribou populations and their habitat, as well as other wildlife species.

● ENR will continue to support emerging and existing forestry partners, providing essential forest planning, support, resource information, and advice to communities and entrepreneurs on a sustainable development.

● A new five-year Northwest Territories water stewardship action plan will identify key approaches to continuing successful implementation of the strategy by continuing strong collaboration and coordination among water partners. Ongoing capacity building within monitoring and research, concluding negotiations on the implementation, implementing transboundary water agreements and providing expert knowledge and advice on industrial development.

● The Government of the Northwest Territories priorities for conservation and network planning will be outlined in a five-year plan to move forward with finalizing and implementing a made-in-the-north approach to conservation and to continue the work of our Land Use and Sustainability Framework.

● The department will also continue to conduct and support environmental monitoring and research in the Northwest Territories to support and form resource decision-making and better understanding of cumulative impacts on our ecosystem.The department will lead in the development of the Northwest Territories climate change strategic framework which will identify key themes and gaps in the areas of mitigation and adaptation, monitoring, research, and public engagement.

These are just a few highlights of ENR's ambitious agenda to ensure the sustainable use of our natural resources and protection of our environment. That concludes my opening remarks.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Schumann. Would you like to bring any witnesses into the Chamber? Thank you. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber. Minister Schumann, please introduce your witnesses.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you. To my left is Mrs. Susan Craig, director of finance. On my immediate right is Ernie Campbell, deputy minister. On the far right is Dr. Erin Kelly, assistant deputy minister.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Schumann. We will now proceed to consider the details for the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. The section starts on page 75, and I will allow Members to comment on the organizational charts if they wish, or the graphs. No? Nothing? Page 79 is the department total. We will defer that until we consider the rest of the detail. Are there any comments or questions on page 80, the revenue summary? Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I got a couple questions on this page. Can the Minister or his extensive team there help me understand what the federal cost shared line item is here under transfer payments? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister Schumann?

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

I will get Ms. Craig to answer that.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Ms. Craig.

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Craig

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is an agreement we have with Indigenous and Northern Affairs Canada for cumulative impact monitoring. It was part of the devolution transfer. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Craig. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Great. Thanks. I'm quite familiar with what CIMP is all about, so glad to see those federal dollars continuing to flow. The next question I had was about the environment fund. This is something I had some direct experience with, because I used to be on an advisory committee for the Minister on this. It looked like at the end of 2015-16 that the fund was actually in a deficit position of $356,000, but we are looking at making that up in the next year. I just want to ask the Minister if that's correct and what sort of actions are being undertaken there to bring it back into positive revenue position. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister Schumann.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you for that question. We only were in deficit for that one year, but with the implementation of our new programs, that's the expected growth of this program.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Schumann. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair, and thanks to the Minister for his response. Maybe I could just try to understand, so the fund went into a deficit probably in 2015-16. That was when the Electronics Recycling Program was under development and we were also looking at revising the Beverage Container Program, deposits to get a better understanding of how the revenues were working and so on, so there is probably some adjustments going on. Now that that's settled down and the electronics recycling money is going to start coming in, we are looking at turning the fund around again. Is that what's happening here? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister Schumann.

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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Yes. The Member is correct. That's exactly what we were expecting.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Glad to see the fund getting back into a healthier position. Just really good work that happens there in terms of beverage container recycling, electronics recycling, but I have a couple of other questions further into the departmental budget on those things. Thanks.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Did you want the Minister to respond? Mr. Blake.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just under timber permits and licences, I know a few years back when we started doing the volunteer permitting for driftwood, anybody that collected driftwood, it seems like the department is making it mandatory now. I would just like to get a little information on that.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. Mr. Campbell.