Thanks, Mr. Chair. So one of the key points about the design of this fund, as the Minister noted, is that we don't try to run programs that will work for regions across the territories. We give the money to the experts, which is the Aboriginal governments. They often top it up, and they design what works and is needed in their region.
This makes it a challenge to come up with an evaluation framework, so we've tackled this in two stages. We have, of course, reporting requirements. We get information from the Aboriginal governments, what programs they ran, how many people participated. We get some client satisfaction feedback. We're then, for phase two, we have started working with two of the Aboriginal governments to look at how do we develop an evaluation framework that has enough flexibility that it allows us to do the things the Member is talking about, which is tracking those longer-term outcomes, also allows the Aboriginal government or Aboriginal sponsor to track the things they care about. It becomes quite complex.
You overlay that with the complexity of: what is an effective treatment program? Sometimes it's just helping somebody take that first step. So it's not a straightforward outcome evaluation, so, as I say, we've addressed it in two parts. We do get activity reports. We do get all the information we've asked for. We’re trying to work in partnership to take it to that next level. Thank you, Mr. Chair.