This is page numbers 1187 – 1220 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank the Minister for her short kind of an answer. I understand what the process is. Has the department worked with the RCMP to make sure that we actually build what they are looking for and not what is the most cost-effective way of do it? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We work very closely. We participate in a working group with the RCMP to determine what their needs are. They are very specific in what they are looking for in units, so it is imperative that we work closely with them to make sure that we meet their needs. That you can, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Minister for that answer. In regards to the affordable housing, the title, is the department looking at rephrasing it? Because affordable housing, to me, looks like it is something for somebody else. This is actually specifically for the RCMP, so people look that this plan -- that they understand that. If we can make sure it is identified so people in the community of Fort Simpson don't think we have seven more units coming in there. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Would the Minister like to reaffirm her earlier commitment?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As the commitment made to MLA Testart, we have committed that in future we will change the names from affordable housing for the RCMP units. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Minister for reaffirming that commitment here in the House. I thank you very much. In regards to this building here, these seven units, is there any better ranking for stick-built versus modular, or is it whatever comes in at the cheapest? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. All the applications or proposals are reviewed on the same criteria, although we are conscious that we do want to support northern businesses and preferably businesses in or close to the communities that are providing the services. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think I sort of kind of heard an answer, maybe I didn't. If my understanding is correct, and this is kind of a yes or no answer, it is just the bottom line. We look at it, if you provide these requirements, it is the bottom line. Whatever is the cheapest is what the Corporation actually purchases. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, that is not correct. Price is one factor that we look at. There are a variety of factors that we look at when we define who will be the successful bidder, such as the northern -- the business incentive policy process, whether they are locally, whether they are community. So there are a number of factors that we look at when we determine who will be the winning component. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Minister again. I think we are working forward towards an answer. I guess my concern though is with modular homes being built, whether it is in the North or down south, the tradespeople in the communities are saying they are very difficult to maintain. When I say maintain, when damages happen to them, and they don't last as a stick-built does. So is this part of the proposal? Does the corporation actually look at this as part of their proposal? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister, there is one minute left in Mr. Thompson's time if you'd like to respond.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The lifespan that we're working towards with both, either modular, stick built or panel, all of them is a 50-year lifespan, so we are working towards that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson, 30 seconds.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Minister for that answer and I'm hoping that these units will actually stay more than the 20 years that I have been advised with the challenges out there with modular homes, and I'm looking forward to a Northerner bringing these facilities into the community. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Seeing no new names on my list I'll allow Mr. McNeely to speak again. Mr. McNeely.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. When I look at the list there on 70, 71 and the page prior 69, in alphabetical order on capital projects for the communities I don't see the little community of Colville Lake on there. My question is: during your survey needs assessment, reviews, allocation do you take into account seasonal access?

Because a little community like Colville or Deline is not on the list because of the fact they're inland away from the river. In case there's a barge that could mobilize materials and buildings in during the summer season as well as take advantage over the winter season the only ones that are left open for a one-per-year access is Colville and Deline, so do you take that into account? Because if you miss the whole year poor little Colville Lake is not going to get a house there until year two, so does the department take that seasonal access into account? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, the department does take into consideration seasonal access. Colville Lake is one community that I haven't been to yet and I want to go to. The units, though, in Colville Lake actually have a high condition rating. So over the last ten years the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation has invested $2.6 million into capital in Colville Lake and $826,000 into home ownership and minor programs. In the last five years we built two public housing units in that community, and this current year we're building two affordable housing units in that community. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. McNeely.