This is page numbers 325-362 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was community.

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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't expect there will be any change at this time. Through you, I'll ask the Minister of Health to say a few words on this matter. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the Member is correct. We provide benefits for Metis people as a last resort, we're the last funder. We do encourage Metis people to pursue other insurance, if they have employer's insurance and whatnot. On average, it costs us about $2 million, as the Member has indicated, and we are ready to have discussions with the federal government. We know what we've paid over the past years. We mirror NIHB exactly for our Metis residents. So we know what our numbers are. We're prepared to have that discussion once the time is right.

In the meantime, given the ruling, but also given that it was a decision of this House, there's no plans at this point in time to stop funding or proving that services to our Metis residents until such a time is we have worked out a deal with the federal government where they can takeover the costs.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Any more comments or questions on page 41? Seeing none. Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations, negotiations, operation expenditure summary, activity total, $2.98 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Moving on to page 42, negotiations, active positions, information item only. Are there any questions, comments? None. We'll move on to page 43, lease commitments and other information items. Are there any questions? Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I wonder if I could get some information about why we're leasing office space in Ottawa? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Premier McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At one time we had a deputy minister of Intergovernmental Affairs based out of Ottawa and we had government offices. We found it was very helpful and useful to have a government office in Ottawa. So we've continued to maintain a government office. It keeps getting smaller and cheaper all the time just because of what's happening in Ottawa. The office space we had in the Delta building, because of renovations, we were able to get out of our lease and get a significantly better deal in or new office, which everybody should visit when they're in Ottawa, which has a view of Parliament.

It’s very beneficial for us when we go to Ottawa to have meetings, to have negotiations. Also people from the Northwest Territories that go to Ottawa, they have a place to go and they're welcome to use our offices while they're there. We have one staff that helps us make arrangements when we go to Ottawa and when we have to go to meet with federal Ministers and so on. So they coordinate all of those. We have to go through heavy security and so on.

For us, we still see it as money well spent. I think we have a lease that's for about five years, I believe. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Premier McLeod. Mr. McNeely.

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Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Just want to add to the comments about Ottawa. Twenty years ago, I was a visitor in Ottawa and I did find on the website the office in question here, and found very convenient. It did provide me with a lot of support while I was there; where to go, who to see. It probably provides other residents of the NWT with the same level of services.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Premier McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Bob McLeod Yellowknife South

Yes. The Women Warriors of the Sahtu have certainly found it very helpful.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Premier McLeod. Are there any further questions on page 43? Seeing none, we can move ahead to page 44, another information item, work performed on behalf of others. Are there any questions? Mr. O’Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. So when I read this, it seems like the federal government is providing implementation funding for the GNWT Inuvialuit, Gwich’in, Sahtu and Tlicho agreements. Then when I turn back to page 34, the amounts in this work performed on behalf of others, seems to correspond roughly what to what is shown in the implementation part of the departmental budget back on page 34. Is that the case here? What is the relationship between these two tables? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thanks Mr. O’Reilly. Mr. Robertson.

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Robertson

The table that you see on page 34 corresponds to the money that we refer to as fund one, what the Members are voting on today for GNWT resources. The information that is provided is third party. The money is what was agreed on to cover the costs of the GNWT implementing those agreements. Not just our department, there is money that goes across all departments. They have agreed to fund the GNWT for those incremental costs. Thinking collectively. That’s the money that is used to coordinate the government-wide implementation of the federal agreement plus the negotiation of the ongoing agreements. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Robertson, Mr. O’Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I’m just trying to understand the fluctuation of these numbers as well. Can I have some explanation of the fluctuation.

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Robertson

The opening numbers of 2015-16 are part of the tenure that we have for Canada under those four settled agreements the government is allowed to retain. Given the year-end closure, you’ll see the carry-over for the prior year. The money from 2016-17 is the money that we have coming in that is guaranteed from Canada. We are accountable in the sense to carry out our money. The agreements do allow for the carry-over and we’re allowed to use that for future work. The money that you see here is primarily for salaries and travel related costs, so those types of monies do fluctuate a lot from year to year. Which is why we carry over a small surplus of about $100,000 per year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Seeing no one else on my list, would the committee please turn back to page 27. The departmental summary of Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations. of $8.754 Million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Does committee agree that the review of departmental summary of Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations is completed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

Committee agrees. I have decided to report progress.

---Carried

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

I will now rise and report progress