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Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Anytime in the future where we have contributions, they would show up on this page. We will, in future, likely show more detail, but in a more accurate form than is shown here. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Nothing further from Mr. McNeely. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I also have questions about the roll-up into energy programs and policy development. I'm just looking at the description where it says, funding to support the Arctic Energy Alliance and develop policy to support broad GNWT energy objectives. Can the Minister clarify if we are funding the Arctic Energy Alliance to develop policy or if we're funding them to deliver programs, or are we doing both? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Now, we fund the Arctic Energy Alliance for energy supplements to the communities. The policy is for things such as our energy plan that we'll be developing, those types of things. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So what percentage of this $3,530,000 is allocated to the policy development side of that line item? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Mr. Guy will speak to that.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The funding for actual in-house work done on energy policy planning and developing things like energy plans would fall on the other page, under things like salaries and contract services where we would use contractors to provide it. This is purely the contributions and the contribution agreements that we do. And for administrative purposes, they fall under energy program and policy shop, so that's why they're show under that heading. The majority of that money is the $3.5 million that we're providing Arctic Energy Alliance this year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the department for that clarification. I'm just wondering -- and that's what I assumed looking on the other page, energy policy planning progress, but it is curious that this line item is called energy programs and policy development.

So, this contribution doesn't include any policy development related to the Energy Plan? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, it's not intended to be at all directly linked to the energy plan. Really, it is the contribution agreements we provide to the Arctic Energy Alliance for the alternative energy programs biomass. The Alternative Energy Technologies Program and that suite of programs and rebate programs that Arctic Energy Alliance operates and provides. It’s just shown under that because that is the administrative division of the department which it is funded through.

Going forward, we will commit to providing more clarification on how we denote that in the plan and this information item next year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd like to commend the Department for committing to that clarification. The other item here is energy research and analysis. Is that also going to be undertaken by the Arctic Energy Alliance? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll let the deputy minister answer that.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Guy.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Guy

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm not quite sure what line item -- it was energy efficiency analysis that was referred to, but we do our own in-house energy efficiency analysis through our staff on government-owned buildings and energy efficiency analysis is done to commercial businesses and to residents in the northwest territories. It's provided through the Arctic Energy Alliance, so there would be some funding in that $3.5 million for them to do that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My apologies if I misspoke. I was speaking to energy research and analysis, $440,000, which is right beneath the $3.5 million for energy programs and policy development on page 388. So the description is renewable energy, monitoring data collection and testing. So that $440,000, is that also contribution to the Arctic Energy Alliance? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Consideration in the Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The breakdown for that $440,000 is for: the energy research and analysis, it's for the Aklavik variable speed generator $300,000; it's for wind monitoring $40,000; and hydrology monitoring and forecasting in the North Slave Region at $100,000. Thank you, Mr. Chair.