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Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So like I said earlier, we are trying to get all of the tenants to file their income tax. We have made some allowances for seniors, in all honesty, who aren’t really receptive to change, and so within a few situations we have allowed them to come in and give a monthly breakdown of rent. I should note that within our applications, and it's not new, it's been forever, we can still ask for the income tax for verification of rent. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for her answer; however, I'm still trying to understand. If they cannot do their income tax, they don't do it, how is rent calculated so they have to pay for it? I have lots of -- I shouldn't say a lot, I have a number of constituents who have asked this question and I cannot honestly give an answer. So I'm asking the Minister: will she please explain how it is calculated and it's implemented?

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

So we do try to base our rents off income. We are moving with the income tax and some people have been allowed to file their monthly income statements. However, if neither of those are provided to the Housing Corporation, in all fairness to people we still have to define a rent, and so we do charge the top market rents on our rent scale to people who do not either give any form of income provided to us.

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

February 14th, 2017

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for her answer. I totally support the idea of making sure people file their income tax. So I guess my next question is: now that we understand that it's at the top rent if they don't file their income tax, will the Minister make a commitment if people do file their income taxes that they'll be retroactive to look at their cost for the rent?

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

It is not the priority of the NWT Housing Corporation to punish people. People who do come forward and bring in their income assessment, we have gone back and renegotiated their rent charges based on their income that they supply us.

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh.

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I really thank the Minister for her answer. I have never, ever said that the Housing Corporation has been punishing the clients there. We are just trying to get them educated to get their income taxes in so that they can verify their income.

Mr. Speaker, in regard to the survey that the Minister has talked about, has the department been calculating or tabulating the results that have come in? She's talked about over 1,000 people who have submitted their results. Has the Minister been able to get the department to start tabulating these results from the survey? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am actually quite glad that I get a chance to talk on that. I think the department knows how anxious I am to get the survey results in. It was really painful, actually, to extend it for another month to get people. Not that I don't want to get the feedback, that's why I agreed to extend it, but because I recognized that we have a lot of work to do. Yes, we are very fortunate that we, actually, most of the people, the replies have been done on the Survey Monkey, the electronic tool. We only had a few that came in in written form. We have been busy right now. We have been implementing those written formats into our Survey Monkey tool, and we have begun the process of categorizing. If people are talking about, for example, home ownership, we are putting them into a batch. We are beginning to split things up so that we can find common themes.

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier today, my honourable friend, the Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh asked about a program evaluation for the Teacher Education Program. I'd like to ask the Minister of Education: has a program evaluation been done, yes or no? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned earlier, at the beginning of this process, our department, the Department of ECE, worked in collaboration with the Aurora College staff and executive to identify reductions within their program services. I will have to find out from the department if there was a full evaluation done on the program and get back to the Member on that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

It is a little concerning to hear that we are not sure if this was an evidence-based decision to cut this program, or if it is, in fact, a political decision to cut, to save some money and support the fiscal strategy of the government. Can the Minister at least clarify that point? What is motivating this decision? Is it, again, to meet a reduction target, or is it because we want the best quality education for Northerners?

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

As I had mentioned earlier, as Members of the Legislative Assembly, sometimes you have tough decisions to make. In terms of reductions, my department, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, worked with the department at Aurora College to identify where reductions could be made in Aurora College. The consultation took place. They looked at the programs, looked at what the impacts were, and as you have heard on many occasions the fiscal situation that this government is in and the fiscal responsibility that we have as legislatures on the public purse, sometimes you have got to make those difficult decisions. These were two areas of reductions that were brought forth to the government, and we are in the process of debating that at the moment.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

I do appreciate that the Minister is taking a firm position on this, and arguing that position. Just as a matter of course, I do not agree with it. I think if we are going to find those redundancies that we can live with, they should be redundancies that are based, or reductions that are based on evidence. Again, we see that the Minister does not have that information at his fingertips. The strategic planning process, what is the criteria for that? Is the criteria for that broad statements of fiscal responsibility and political direction like that, or is it a strategic plan that is based on evidence, that is based on feedback from students and course facilitators? Which is it, Mr. Speaker? Are we making decisions for the college based on political expediency, or are we making decisions based on sound, solid evidence?

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

As I mentioned earlier when I was responding to another Member's questions, on average, for the last three years, we have had 29 students enroll in through the TEP program. For the last three years, on average, we have graduated seven. We are currently in the same process this year, and I encourage all the students who are in the program right now, to study hard, to work hard, and to get that degree so that we can employ you in our schools, in our communities. We are also currently working and supporting 33 students outside of the territory.

These are evidence-based decisions that were made when we looked at the programs. Obviously, we do not want to put a number to each graduate that we have, but when we make our investments, they have got to be strategic investments that gives us the best outcomes that will help our communities and help our northern education system. We continue to support the students who are in there right now. We continue to support students who want to go and get educated down south. These were evidence-based decisions, and as I mentioned, as a Member of this Legislative Assembly, there are times that we have to make hard decisions based on the fiscal situation that we are currently in.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we have to give our students the benefit of the doubt. There is an awful lot that goes into pursuing an education degree. I hear the Minister say this often, that he's encouraging them all to study hard and get those degrees. Will the Minister make the commitment to saving this program if enough students graduate? If the entire class graduates, will he put the money back in the program, because that seems to be the criteria he's putting forward today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The whole process of this, when it came to light, there was information that was shared with standing committee. The standing committee was aware of this last year. We worked with the board. The board executive was known of this when we worked with the executive moving forward. None of this is new. This is where we debated in the house during budget session, and that's what we're having now is a healthy debate on the programs. These two programs were identified, and we will be debating that when we get into the main estimates in Committee of the Whole.

Question 582-18(2): Aurora College Teacher Education Program
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Time for oral questions have expired. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to commissioner's opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, Reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. Minister of Environment and Natural Resource.

Tabled Document 279-18(2): Follow-Up Letter For Oral Question 484-18(2): Kam Lake Environmental Assessment
Tabling of Documents

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled "Follow-Up Letter for Oral Question 484-18(2): Kam Lake Environmental Assessment." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 279-18(2): Follow-Up Letter For Oral Question 484-18(2): Kam Lake Environmental Assessment
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Member for Frame Lake.

Tabled Document 280-18(2): 'the Hill Times' Article - Divide And Conquer: How The Feds Split The Provinces In Health Talks
Tabling of Documents

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document. It's from The Hill Times dated February the 1, 2017. It is titled "Divide and Conquer: How the feds split the provinces in health talks." They have outflanked their provincial counterparts entirely, says one source close to the talks. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Tabled Document 280-18(2): 'the Hill Times' Article - Divide And Conquer: How The Feds Split The Provinces In Health Talks
Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Tabling of documents. Member for Nunakput.

Tabled Document 284-18(2): Minister Of Families, Children And Social Development Mandate Letter To Minister Duclos
Tabling of Documents

Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table four documents. The first document is Inuit-Crown Partnership Committee. The second document would be, Minister of Health Mandate Letter from the Prime Minister's Office to Minister Philpott, and also a letter from the Office of the Prime Minister to the Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs, a mandate letter, and also an office of the Prime Minister letter to the Minister of Families, Children and Social Development, a mandate letter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.