Thank you, Minister Schumann. Mr. Simpson.
Debates of Feb. 15th, 2017
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, just to confirm, the grants and contributions report will tell us how effectively that money was spent, what the return on investment for the GNWT was, which sectors the investments are most needed in, most useful for, and most profitable in, and have created the most number of jobs and the greatest economic diversification? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, Mr. Simpson. Minister Schumann, if you want to add the amount of the lending portfolio to the question, as mentioned by Mr. Simpson, go ahead. Minister Schumann.
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Wally Schumann Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is why I said I wanted to review how SEED is getting allocated, but, in the grants and contributions, if you look in there, it is broken out into five different areas right now, sector support, micro business, entrepreneur support, community economic development, and business intelligence and networking. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 49-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Health And Social Services, Deferral Of Further Consideration Of The Estimates For The Department Of Health And Social Services, Carried
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think that the Minister is probably trying to -- we are trying to get to the same point here, of being able to look at where the money is being spent and how well it is being spent to make some decisions about it.
Are there policy changes coming as to how SEED can be distributed? I believe it is $15,000 per person right now, but are there options to maybe make that a bit more flexible, say if a cooperative or some other entity needed some money to do something that might cost more than $15,000? If it was a micro fish plant that might $100,000, are there opportunities to fund those types of endeavours with SEED? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 49-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Health And Social Services, Deferral Of Further Consideration Of The Estimates For The Department Of Health And Social Services, Carried
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Wally Schumann Hay River South
With SEED, I already have the authority to go over $15,000, so if something came forward and there was an initiative that I believe we can support, the Minister can sign off and go above the $15,000.
Just back to the Member's earlier question, though, about sectors, if you actually go into the grants and contributions, in there on page 12, it also breaks it out by activity. It has all the sectors, I believe, that he was trying to get to. It has agriculture, arts and crafts, business conferences, e-commerce, education. All these sorts of things are broken out by percentages and amount of money, so all that information is available there. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. You mentioned manufacturing, the new manufacturing sheets, the promotional sheets. What has been the response to those from industry? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Wally Schumann Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. The sheet that I seen was just in draft form, so I don't think we have actually sent them out and shared them with everybody yet. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. From what I have heard from industry who have seen them, they might need a bit of work. Finally, I just have some questions. I would like the rationale for having the manager of Traditional Economy, Agriculture and Fisheries located in Yellowknife. I know I discussed this in the House. The Minister stated that the other person in that department, the other position, is located in Hay River, although the government's website states that that is located, actually, in Yellowknife, along with an intern who is also located in Yellowknife. This manager manages that person, an occasional intern, and the person in the fur section, which is in Yellowknife.
Now, this position talks about setting the direction for the sectors, the fisheries and agriculture sector. I am not discounting fur. It was a million-dollar sector last year. Fisheries was $1.2 million and, according to the strategy, it could grow tenfold. Agriculture is also on the move. Both of those are centred in the South Slave.
Now, this position needs to have industry consultation meetings, needs to know what is going on with the industry, what is going on with the people on the ground. With the way the GNWT is set up, you don't need to be in Yellowknife if you are a manager. You don't need to be in Yellowknife to be in touch with headquarters. We have Internet, telephones, all that kind of stuff now, so I would just like the rationale why this position is in Yellowknife instead of where it could do the most good for the territory as a whole? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 49-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Health And Social Services, Deferral Of Further Consideration Of The Estimates For The Department Of Health And Social Services, Carried
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Committee Motion 49-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Health And Social Services, Deferral Of Further Consideration Of The Estimates For The Department Of Health And Social Services, Carried
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Wally Schumann Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. The reason it is in Yellowknife is because it is looking after the Northwest Territories as a whole. It is a pan-territorial position, so that position is located here to do that stuff. As the Member alluded to, we talked about it in the House, the position is going to be getting re-profiled in Hay River to look after the fishery and agriculture strategy, and they also have the full support of the superintendent of ITI in this House, who also works on all these files and helps direct some of that stuff. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, Minister Schumann. Mr. Simpson, there is time allowed for another.
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R.J. Simpson Hay River North
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I understand the position is pan-territorial. Take, for example, fishing. I believe 1.3 million pounds came out of the South Slave, was brought to the fish plant in Hay River. I think 10,000 or 16,000 pounds came out of the North Slave and 10,000 came out from up in the Beaufort. So when you have 90-some per cent of the production happening in a certain area, why won't you focus efforts in that area, especially when it is such a promising one?
I see my time is up, but that is just maybe something to think about, and that is something I will come back to over and over again. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 49-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Health And Social Services, Deferral Of Further Consideration Of The Estimates For The Department Of Health And Social Services, Carried
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Wally Schumann Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to make it quite clear. This position that is in Yellowknife, it is pan-territorial. It is not just fish. It is agriculture, and it does fur, so it does a number of things. I guess when we come back to the first page and, when we close off on ITI at the end of all this, you will see the layout and how we have redirected the supports around some of this stuff. That is the reason that job is in Yellowknife. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 49-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Health And Social Services, Deferral Of Further Consideration Of The Estimates For The Department Of Health And Social Services, Carried
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February 14th, 2017

Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. A number of my colleagues have asked some of my questions, but they have opened up the door for a number of other questions. The Business Development and Investment Corporation, the corporation is developing a corporate plan. The Minister said it is going to be tabled by April 1st. We are done here on March 10th, so is it going to be done by March 10th and tabled in the House, or is it going to be tabled in our later sitting? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 49-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Health And Social Services, Deferral Of Further Consideration Of The Estimates For The Department Of Health And Social Services, Carried
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Wally Schumann Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to the Member for asking that question. Actually, I have to approve it by April 1st, and then it will be tabled in the summer. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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