Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The corporation itself does work with Lands, so when they offer workshops we do attend those and we offer them out to the communities. Currently, though, we meet with their local housing organizations once a year to provide training opportunities. So I will take that into consideration. The big focus, though, this year with our training of local housing organizations will be on customer service. I do agree with the Member who says we need to get out and knock on people's doors and reach out to people more. So part of that is actually making sure that people have the tools, and that means we need to focus on customer service training as a priority. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. McNeely.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In most communities they have an interagency group. I would suggest that the department maybe use that group to get the word out through education on land tenure. My other question is related to the previous page, 353. I am just looking at the historical statements, and there really has not been a lot of change to the bottom line, but in some cases some funding has been increased or decreased, and I am thinking about the property taxes and land lease. It is budgeted to go higher. Could you explain that a little bit there? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The additional money for the property tax and land leases, there is a $92,000 increase and it is for the additional property tax that will be for the lots for the planned RCMP units. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. McNeely.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will have my question related to the RCMP units later. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Next I have Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the Minister how many apprentices the housing associations have and if they are getting any support from another department to pay for the salaries of the apprentices. Thank you.

Thank you, Beaulieu. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Currently, we have positions for 10 to 15 apprenticeships. At this point, nine of them are filled, but it will be an area that we will be looking going within our program renewal because providing capacity within the communities is part of the answer. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, to the sale of public housing, also on page 353, I would like to ask the Minister if the Minister actually had a target on the amount of public housing they wish to divest in this coming year.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At this point we do not have a defined number in the department. They have been talking about the pilot project of at least 10. I have been moving them and saying a pilot project with at least 33. One per community would be my pilot project goal. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, earlier the Minister talked about a user-pay program. I was wondering if that would have any direct impact on the actual rents. It would seem that, at the first look, the power bills are fairly significant across many of our communities, and I was wondering if, once the NWT Housing Corporation moves that cost from their books to the tenant, that tenant will pay less rent according to how much more power they are required to pay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At this point, we are investing in energy-efficiency things that will actually help save money. For example, replacing fuel tanks, hot water tanks, putting LED lightbulbs in every single public housing unit. So we are expecting that there may be an increased cost until people learn to close their windows and to conserve energy. What we have decided not to do is that we will not be increasing our rent. I need to point out that the Northwest Territories, between 4 and 14.5 per cent of income goes to public housing. The standard across Canada is 30 per cent. So even though we have a lot of room that we could actually charge people more rent, we have made a decision not to. Once we do the utilities, we will be watching them very closely over the time to make sure that people can still afford to keep them. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, just back on the rent scale, did I hear correctly that the rent scale is now maxed out at 14.5 per cent? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am really glad that the Member asked that question because I thought it was, but the actual answer is between 4 and 19.5 per cent and it is maxed out at 19.5 per cent. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you for asking the clarifying question.