Thank you, Mr. Chair. So we're talking evidence-based, so there was an input and output, which means that if we're looking at if you remove this job out of the community and then put him on income support, that was part of this evidence-based process, I am assuming, so it was an input and output and we are looking to make decisions. That to me is evidence-based. The Minister talks about these redundancy positions. Well, we started out with eight the previous year, went to seven last year, now we are down to six. So are you saying that regional operations are redundant? Thank you, Mr. Chair.