Thank you, Ms. Bolstad. Mr. Thompson.
Debates of Feb. 23rd, 2017
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Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter
February 23rd, 2017

Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank her for providing the answer. However, I still don't understand this. We have $281,000 that got transferred over to community justice policing. There was $249,000, and there is still short $32,000. Where is that $32,000? Where did that get transferred to? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter
Goldney
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think what the Member is seeing in the Corrections budget is the remainder of the fund for wilderness programming. That still stays there. It is a portion of it that was moved out to community justice. They are not numbers that should line up. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter

Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank Mr. Goldney for his answer. When I take $562,000 and you take $281,000, you subtract that you come up with $281,000. Maybe my math is wrong, but when I am looking at it, only on community justice and policing there was $249,000. In my math, we are $32,000 short. Where did that money go? Was it transferred to somewhere else? I am looking at it, and it doesn't jibe with what is in community justice and policing. Can the Minister please advise us, where has this extra $32,000 gone? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
We are attempting to answer this question. I am wondering if the Member could identify where he is pointing to on the community justice page?
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, Minister Sebert. We are on Corrections. Pages 260 to 263. Would you make reference within those pages there? Mr. Thompson.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair, yes. On page 261, we see a reduction in wilderness programming of $281,000. I was told that we transferred the money to community justice and policing under contract services on page 256, but it only comes out to $249,000. We are out $32,000. I am asking: where is this money? Where did it go? Did it go somewhere, transfer to another area? We are out $32,000. Unless my math is wrong, I don't know where it is. That is why I am asking the Minister where it went. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Bolstad
Thank you, Mr. Chair. If you reference the 2016-2017 Main Estimates column and not the revised estimates, the number there is the $698,000 on the contract services line within community justice. The increase between the 2016-2017 Main Estimates and the 2017-2018 Main Estimates is actually $357,000. The $281,000 is within that increase. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am looking at the main estimates, 2017-2018 and 2016-2017. The money is there. Can I get the Minister to make a commitment to show me exactly where the $32,000 is? Because it still does not add up. Can I just get that commitment, because we could be here for a while longer? If I could get the commitment for the department to show me where this extra $32,000 have gone to, I would greatly appreciate that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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The Chair Daniel McNeely
Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Ms. Bolstad, would you provide assistance for clarification to that request?
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Bolstad
Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is a question of some complexity. We will attempt to provide those figures, and I believe we can. Thank you.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matter

Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. The SFCC in Hay River, is the remand part of the jail fit to house remand inmates? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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Louis Sebert Thebacha
It is not currently being used for remand prisoners. I don't know, frankly, whether it would would provide adequate security for remands. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Committee Motion 65-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Justice, Deferral Of Community Justice And Policing Activity, Carried
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