This is page numbers 2745 - 2784 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

September 25th, 2017

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, to my right I have Dr. Erin Kelly, who is our assistant deputy minister in ENR. To my left I have Susan Craig, who is our director of corporate services. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister, and welcome to the witnesses. Do we have any opening comments or general comments from committee on the Department of Environment and Natural Resources? Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. The same sort of questions I had for the Minister of Lands, to some extent: when I look at page 16, the total capital expenditures really jump around quite a bit for this department. I think I probably have some ideas why, but I guess I would like to hear from the officials. What is going on? In 2016-2017, it was almost $29 million; 2017-2018 revised estimates, $10.6 million; this year, for 2018-2019, it is only $3 million. What is going on here? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Ms. Craig.

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Craig

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In year 2016-2017, that was the purchase of the 802 Air Tractor, so that was quite a large, substantial capital project. In 2017, our main estimates were $3,400,000, which is around our normal allocation for capital, and when you compare that to the 2018-2019 main estimates, they are quite similar. The main reason for the revised amount is that we had projects that were not completed in 2016-2017, and they were carried forward into 2017-2018.

Substantially, we have a project in Inuvik, the Shell Lake Complex, and in Fort Simpson, we have the lab that is being hopefully finished this year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Craig. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. That is what I expected, was that those aircraft had bumped up 2016-2017. When we cast our minds forward into future years' expenditures for ENR, back on page 5, for 2019, it is only $544,000, and then nothing for 2020-2021. I know it is often difficult to predict capital expenditures into the future, but surely there must be some sort of a regular replacement cycle and things for vehicles and buildings and stuff like that. Why is there not a more substantial investment from ENR and into the future? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Ms. Craig.

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Craig

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At this point in time we have projects that are in our 20-year capital needs, and they need to come forward into that planning cycle of 2019-2020. We do anticipate that we will have a small cap allocation similar to our budgets that we have now in the $3 million area. As the Member stated, we need to identify the projects that are either in lifecycle, repair, or improvements on the existing capital projects that we have.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Craig. Further, Mr. O'Reilly?

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mr. Chair, yes. I just make the case again: I do not want to see cuts in ENR to fund other kinds of infrastructure. Thanks, Mr. Chair. I have no further questions. It is more of a comment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is funny that Ms. Craig has a comment on my ENR facility in Fort Simpson, so can the Minister please provide us an update of what the status is? It was supposed to be done a couple of years ago, but it has not been done yet. Can he give us an update on what the status of it is? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, our expectation is it will be done during this fiscal year. Thank you, completed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

That is good to hear, and I thank the Minister for that answer. Can I get an update when it is done so that I can maybe get a tour of this facility? It has been long overdue. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. We will be more than glad to send the Member an invite to hold one end of the ribbon. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Anything further, Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. I would prefer not to hold the ribbon, but that is okay. I appreciate the offer. During general comments, I talked about the microwave power near Blackstone River. As the Minister is aware, we have had a little bit of a fire scare there. The community was talking about the potential of putting a cellular antenna on this facility, and this is something that we are trying to look at. Will the Minister be looking at this? Is this something that can be done through the capital planning process, or is this a miscellaneous opportunity they can fulfill doing that? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, on the advice of the Member, we can commit to go back and have a look at it, and see what it might take to repair. We will have a look at it. Simple answer.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Anything further, Mr. Thompson?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Minister. Again, we are not asking for the tower to be built. It is more putting a cellular antenna on there, and the community is looking to do that. The next question is the CL215 water bombers. Have we sold those? Because I notice there are still a number of these airplanes still at the end of the runway by Buffalo. Have these planes been sold because they are not going to be used anymore by the government? Thank you, Mr. Chair.