Absolutely. I mean, this is consensus government. We are open and willing and excited to work together, so absolutely.
Debates of Sept. 26th, 2017
This is page numbers 2745 - 2784 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.
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September 26th, 2017

Shane Thompson Nahendeh
During this last six months, the community of Fort Liard has been trying to work with the department to build a morgue, and I realize it is not in the capital plan here, but right now, as you heard me speak a couple times, they put the body either in Fort Nelson or Fort Simpson or, worst case scenario, in the garage. There is not really much dignity for the body if they have to do that. I must say I appreciate the Minister and the department, that they are working with the community. When can the community expect to see something in the capital plan to have a morgue in place? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Glen Abernethy Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, this is something that has come up time and again. As we move forward with new facilities such as the facility in Providence, the facility in Fort Resolution, and other facilities, we actually do include this capacity in those new buildings. We are not planning at this point in time to build an addition or a substantial change to the facility in Fort Resolution to accommodate that, but, as it moves down in the capital plan, we would certainly be looking at something along those lines in all of our new facilities.
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
I thank the Minister for that. I am assuming he is talking about Fort Liard when we talked about it, and not Fort Resolution. I guess my struggle, though, is so basically, until we build a new facility, the community is not going to see a morgue. Is this correct, Mr. Chair?
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Glen Abernethy Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Basically, yes. I mean, as we build new facilities like the one we built in Fort Resolution and the one we built in Fort Providence, those ones have more capacity. Our old buildings don't, and we aren't planning to make any major renovations to existing facilities to include those services, but maybe for more detail I'll go to Mr. Heath.
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Heath
Thank you, Mr. Chair. The air handling requirements and the technical requirements including those facilities makes it not feasible. Incrementally, it's a very expensive addition to add to facilities. We looked at it extensively to see how we could make it work, and really what we settled on is any new facilities we would build, we would include it; retrofitting old facilities is not feasible. Thank you.
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank the Minister and Mr. Heath for the answer. I'm very disappointed, to put it point blank. There's no respect for the people who pass away here. I understand it costs money, but I guess the biggest challenge is: how are you going to be working with the communities to address this issue? Are you going to pay for the costs, transportation costs, for these bodies that have to be put out there, and how are you going to be working with the families with this?
I realize it's capital, and I probably won't get an answer here. I shouldn't be expecting an answer, but I'm quite disappointed in the fact that the department isn't looking at putting in a morgue in this community. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Glen Abernethy Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's unfortunate the Member is upset. I appreciate his concern, but the bottom line is the air-handling systems to actually do this appropriately would be very, very cost prohibitive in our older health centres.
On a case-by-case basis we have worked with families to help with transportation costs. We look at every one. Every time we get asked to do that, we look at it to see what we can do, and in many cases we've been able to help families. Not always, but for the most part we do what we can to help.
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The Chair R.J. Simpson
Thank you, Minister. Nothing further from Mr. Thompson. Next I have Ms. Green.
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Julie Green Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to start by asking a general question that relates to page 5, which is the multi-year plan for each of the departments.
Although the Minister has an ambitious plan to create new long-term care beds in each region as well as healthcare facilities, I notice that the investment goes down next year and the year after. I'm wondering how it's going to be possible to build all these additional beds when the investment is going down. Thank you
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Glen Abernethy Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, on page 5 what you see is basically a summary of previous years' projects that carry over in to multiple years that have already been approved by this Assembly, plus proposed projects for this fiscal year or 2018 fiscal year and the results of those projects moving forward.
It certainly doesn't include everything in our capital plan. For instance, if you look in this capital plan, in Inuvik you'll see one sum of money that we plan to use for our planning study this year because we have to do some permafrost tests, we have to do some site determination that will help us determine the cost of that facility, at which point we would be coming forward for a capital ask to get the full cost of construction included into the capital plan and then it would carry for subsequent years.
This basically just shows what was approved by this Assembly in previous years and what's proposed this year and their carryover costs. It does not include any additional costs related to future projects, or some of the costs for things like the construction of Inuvik, because, frankly, we don't have those costs at this point. We need to do our work that the money is allocated for in 2018-2019 to help us actually build the cost and understand what that project is going to entail. This only shows approved and hopefully approved items and their carryovers.
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Julie Green Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mrs. Chair. The question I have then relating to page 5: does that spending represent what's already been assigned to the hospital? Is that what that money is about? Thank you
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Glen Abernethy Great Slave
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, that is included in there, as well as the costs of the projects that will be approved as a result of the 2018-2019 budget.
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Julie Green Yellowknife Centre
Thank you. I'd like to turn now to page 36. The extended care facility, this is the one in the current Stanton is being expanded to 18 beds. When is this project going to be completed, please?