In the Legislative Assembly on October 18th, 2017. See this topic in context.

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also have questions for the Minister of Justice about corrections. I always say that we need to strive to be world-class in the territory, and the Minister's interest in the Guthrie House offers an opportunity to do just that. Guthrie House is based on a shift in traditional thinking, a shift from seeing correctional centres as a place to house inmates and instead seeing them as a place where we can help these inmates address their issues and ensure that they don't return to the prison system. I would like to first ask the Minister if he could just please describe to us what Guthrie House is. Thank you.

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Justice.

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Guthrie House is a therapeutic community located on the grounds of the Nanaimo Correctional Centre in Nanaimo, British Columbia. That is a medium-security custody facility. It is a provincial institution, so I assume that it deals with inmates doing less than two years. Guthrie House is separate from the main jail, so the prisoners, who are called residents, actually, should they be accepted into the program, stay within that portion of the institution. They don't mix with the other prisoners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

I will add that it is not a jail where people go and do programs. The whole system is a program. It builds up people's confidence and helps them deal with the issues that led them there. It is more of a way of life than a simple program. What prompted the Minister's visit to Guthrie House?

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

The various issues that have been raised this afternoon by the Member. We have grave concerns about recidivism, and it is also well known that many of the inmates in our facility have some substance abuse issues. The type of person who is admitted to the program at Guthrie House has to be highly motivated, but they are medium- to high-risk offenders with documented substance abuse issues in the moderate to severe range. As the Member opposite mentioned, it is quite separate from the main facility and is filled. I had the opportunity to meet with senior staff there. Several staff came with me from the Northwest Territories. We were very impressed by the very high motivation by those in the program.

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

I know we can find a lot of motivated people here as well. No one likes staying in remand at NSCC; it is not a pleasant place for anyone to be. Given that, does it appear that this is a viable model to use in the territory even if we have to adapt it somewhat?

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

We think so, Mr. Speaker. We formed a committee with departmental officials to explore this option further. The committee will look into the program model and consider how it could be adapted to fit the context of the Northwest Territories, including changes to infrastructure, changes, or supports. According to all reports, the amount of recidivism of residents who complete this program is far less than the normal population, so we certainly do want to look at this program and see how we might be able to adapt it to the Northwest Territories, where clearly something is needed.

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North.

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
Oral Questions

R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recommend that everyone look into Guthrie House. I think it offers a lot of possibilities for our territory. The Minister mentioned that there has been a committee struck. How far along is the committee in its work? When can we expect some more solid answers from the Minister?

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

We are at the steering committee stage, but I have directed that this study, this examination of the program, must be a priority for the department. Certainly, we were all impressed, very much impressed, by both the staff and the high motivation of the residents in the institution. If it leads, as it seems to do, to lessening recidivism, we should look at it very seriously. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 20-18(3): Guthrie House Therapeutic Community
Oral Questions

October 17th, 2017

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.