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Question 578-18(2): Deline Self-Government Agreement
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

February 14th, 2017

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier I talked about the Aboriginal Tourism Business initiatives that could be advanced by this government, so my question is to the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment. One of the challenges that we have as an impediment in the small communities is that sometimes we have bureaucracy and red tape that becomes an impediment and a challenge. One example is Aboriginal businesses, especially in small communities, want to take on boat tours and there's the challenge of getting the proper boat insurance. So my question is to the Minister, as I said earlier, recommendations for a strategic action plan on an Aboriginal tourism was released in 2013. What progress has been made towards settling guidelines for cultural experiences so that visitors know that they are paying for an authentic Aboriginal tourism product? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we tabled in this House here last fall, we tabled Tourism 2020 and it has a number of initiatives in that document: attract experience, Aboriginal tourism, community tourism and development, skills development, as well as tourism research and planning, and that's the focus areas of Tourism 2020. To answer his question directly on how do we work to promote Aboriginal tourism and cultural experiences, within that initiative, we moved forward, and one of the things is Aboriginal Tourism Champions Program. That's a new initiative in this. We built it on three previous ones that are still in there that are carried on and there's a bunch of new ones; but the one particular one is Aboriginal Tourism Champions Program, where an individual can come forward to work with the department and we will help them expand and improve authentic Aboriginal Tourism in the communities and help diversify products and initiatives for Aboriginal communities and Aboriginal Culture. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

I'd like to thank the Minister for his reply and it seems that there are great advances being made, and one of the examples that he's highlighting is the idea of mentorship. The second question is: what partnerships have been developed in support of Aboriginal Tourism for education, training, and funding product development? Perhaps maybe there's you know the ideal partnership with Aboriginal governments in each region that could possibly happen with this leadership.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

The Member is quite right. We've worked on a number of initiatives, and the one particular one, to directly answer his question, is a Community Tourism Coordinator Program that has just been enhanced in the new 2020. The communities can come forward and put funding towards hiring this individual. I don’t believe that we totally fund the whole program. It would have to be a cost-shared basis with the communities or Aboriginal governments that want to come forward. We're even open to ideas of where multiple communities within a region may apply for this individual to help promote tourism and be the coordinator on that. As we've said, we've got the Aboriginal Tourism Champions Program that can come forward for each community.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Those are great initiatives that the department is undertaking and advancing. The whole tourism is about promotion, ensuring that people do know of the NWT and some of the unique gifts that we have to offer the world. So I wanted to follow up on the question in terms of the Community Tourism Coordinator, having an individual work with the community. Does that also mean the next step of perhaps communities developing a local tourism strategy for the communities?

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
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Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

That's exactly what this position would do. It would advance a regional product development of the region and packaging and the communities that hire this individual and work together, or Aboriginal governments that hire this person, to help them do exactly what the Member has said.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Deh Cho.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My final question is: has ITI considered broader partnerships in aligning efforts with the Yukon, Nunavut, and the Aboriginal Tourism initiatives in other parts of Canada? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

We continue to reach out to all the territories and provinces on how we can enhance Aboriginal tourism in the Northwest Territories. The last report that I read, there are 32,000 Aboriginal people involved in Aboriginal tourism across Canada, and I believe the initiatives that we brought forward in Tourism 2020 are only going to enhance and improve tourism in the Northwest Territories and reach out to the world and show that Aboriginal culture and our languages that we have here bring more people to the North.

Question 579-18(2): Developing Tourism Opportunities In The Deh Cho Region
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Merci, monsieur le President. My questions are for the Minister of Health before the clock runs out. Cabinet seems to be able to find resources for its preferred projects, whether it's NTCL, Mactung, or roads. We're still waiting to hear, though, about improving our housing stock and other social infrastructure needs. Can the Minister of Health comment on how we're going to fund our growing social infrastructure needs, including the shortfall in long-term care, or shall we just tell our seniors to hit the many roads we keep on building? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member's question is dripping with cynicism. Bottom line is we know that we have significant needs in long-term care, 258 beds by 2026, and that's also factoring in doing more around aging in place, which is something clearly the Members want to see, as does Cabinet.

We know we have a capital need. That capital need has been included in the 20-year plan. That 20-year plan identifies capital projects but also some of the pressures that that will put on O and M which is utilized during our budget planning sessions when we're trying to figure out what we have money for today, how is tomorrow going to impact where we could spend today, and those types of things.

There's no question that there are going to be cost pressures on this government in the future as we roll out the 258 beds, and we know the cost is about $139,000 per bed to operate, which is about $35 million. We need to work together, we need to set priorities, and we need to be fiscally responsible so that we can make these important investments in this area but other areas as we move forward and we're committed to doing so.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I do appreciate the response and the work of the Minister. In an article that I'm going to table later today in the House it talks about how our territorial government, along with some provincial governments, caved in on the issue of the new healthcare agreement. As I understand it, the offer that was on the table in December was better than what we signed off for in January. So can the Minister responsible for the future of healthcare funding tell us why we signed this deal that offers us less money and will contribute very little towards our long-term care needs?

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

With the reduction in the Canada Health Transfer from 6 per cent to 3 per cent, which was actually implemented by the Conservative government prior to the election but adhered to and supported by the Liberal government when they came in, we were going to take a significant reduction in growth in CHT moving forward. That reduction has been maintained; it's still going to be 3 per cent, but on top of that we are going to get $6.1 million and $7.4 million for aging in place, long-term care, homecare, as well as mental health

Those dollars are *limited funding so they are time-sensitive. They come, they last for a period of time, and they're gone. We're going to have to be creative about how we utilize those funds in order to increase the services and support the design of meaningful as well as cost-effective programs moving forward. It does leave us in a position, though, Mr. Speaker, there is no question, where we're still going to have to find money from within to invest in these critical areas like long-term care, aging in place, mental health, and addictions. We are still going to have to find those dollars moving forward and we're going to have to do it in an age of slow growth. We're going to have to be creative, but I'm optimistic that we can. We know what we need to do. The trick is finding our way together as a unified Assembly to make that happen.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I do appreciate the response from the Minister, but as I understand it the original offer was for 5.2 per cent increase annually in healthcare, in the agreement that was under discussion. So why did we sign off on 3 per cent when the original ask was 5.2 and the offer that was on the table was 3.5?

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

What does not change and what cannot change is the federal government made a decision to reduce the CHT by 3 per cent gross, so it was only going to be 3 per cent or GDP, whichever is greater. GDP is tended to not be too high over 3 per cent, but that change was going to happen no matter what.

The provinces and territories attempted to get the federal government to see reason that 5.2 was a sustainable number as opposed to a growth number. There was a disagreement. They took the 3.5 per cent off the table completely. It was gone in December, but they did approach the territories and indicate that there is some money for homecare and there is some money for mental health as well as the 3 per cent.

There are other areas that we're certainly having conversations about; we'll continue to work with the federal government, who has been a great partner with us. They have contributed money to homecare above and beyond the money for Aboriginal homecare. So we're going to continue to work with them, see what other opportunities there are to get some specific funding to support the initiatives of the Northwest Territories, and we'll move forward. In the meantime, we continue to have fiscal challenges. I think we can find a way forward and I'm looking forward to moving forward with a plan to roll out 258 long term care beds in the life of this Assembly so that we have those beds in place by 2026.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the response again from the Minister but I just don't think that that deal that was signed will cut it for us, and certainly this side of the House was never really consulted in terms of what was on the table or what they actually signed off on, but Cabinet seems to think there's going to be a bunch of federal dollars that are going to rain from heaven that are going to help us meet our social infrastructure needs. So can the Minister give us any details on this funding or when we can expect some details and how this is going to help us with our long-term care needs? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I know that there's some social infrastructure money that is available by application by the provinces and territories. I believe the Housing Corporation has been able to get some of those dollars. Those dollars are going to be used for basing the criteria. It's my understanding that those dollars are only available for independent living units in communities throughout the Northwest Territories, so it probably won't directly help with the long-term care. In the territories, where we want to do more to help people age in place and stay out of long-term care, the 258 is based on a low number of people going into the long-term care and doing a better job on aging in place, which is something we're also committed to.

Question 580-18(2): Long-Term Care Funding
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Nahendeh.

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my honourable friend from Mackenzie Delta was asking the Housing Minister some questions in regard to clarification on calculation of rent. So can the Minister please explain how rent is calculated if the income tax is not submitted? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 581-18(2): Public Housing Rent Assessments
Oral Questions

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation.