This is page numbers 1883 – 1930 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Mr. Martin.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, there has been a decrease of $225,000 from the 2016-2017 Main Estimates to the 2017-2018 Main Estimates. The $600,000 is essentially committed and designated for a couple of initiatives that are under way this year. We do, obviously, recognize the importance of the transitional supportive housing investments. This is federal funding. This is a component of the federal funding that the Housing Corporation is receiving, has received from 2016-17, as well as will be receiving some additional funding in 2017-18. These are dollars set aside for additional investment in this area in 2017-18. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. So the reason why our contribution is less: the federal government is getting out of this; the project is finished, or projects are finished? I am just trying to understand the reduction a little bit better. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Martin.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Martin

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is correct. The level of federal funding in a couple of pots actually did reduce from 2016-2017, so we have less funding to work within 2017-2018, and as a result of that, there is a reduction there. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’m try to be kind here, but just because the feds are backing out of funding our programs, it is not necessarily an excuse for us to pull the plug on them. I will just leave my comment at that.

I want to go down to a different line, rental housing in rural and remote locations. Last year, it was $783,000. This year, zero. Perhaps I can get an explanation of that one as well? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Williams.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Williams

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This funding for rental housing in rural and remote locations, it was a three-year pilot program that has now concluded. The $783,000 will be sunsetting.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Williams. I will just remind the witnesses and the Members to indicate when you are finished. Maybe a "thank you" just so that the tech team knows to change the microphones. I appreciate that. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the information about it being a pilot project. Does the corporation have any initial results of this pilot project? Is this something that we would look at continuing on our own? What happened there? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Williams.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Williams

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This program, we had very low uptake in the program. Certainly, we will be evaluating it and looking at it. As you are well aware, we are doing a program renewal. If we could come up with a program that is more suitable for the residents, we would certainly look at that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Williams. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that. The $783,000 sounds like a lot of money. There might have been other money that had been spread out over three years. Is there some kind of a report, a formal evaluation of the project and the money that was spent? Is that something that could be shared with the Regular MLAs? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At this point, we know exactly what we spent on the program. We do know that there has been low uptake on the program. We have not done a formal evaluation, but we can pull together a report that we can actually share with the Members. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you very much. I appreciate that commitment from the Minister, and that is all the questions I have. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Nadli.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Michael Nadli

Michael Nadli Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I wanted to talk about on page 359, in particular, the line items respecting the Homelessness Assistance Fund, and also the Small Community Homelessness Fund. It seems very prominent that there has been some efforts in terms of tackling the homelessness issues. The most visible, of course, the efforts have been made here in Yellowknife. In light of that, there was the recent report of people moving from the small communities into the regional centres and, of course, Yellowknife as well. In light of that, I wanted to understand what features of perhaps successful programs or projects that this government has seen in respect of those two funds? I know for a large part, perhaps, these two funds are targeting programs that are NGOs that do exist in small communities in terms of whether it is just purely, at this point, a program supplement. Mahsi.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The monies that actually support homelessness are more than that. They are Housing First, the 150, then 125, 280 for Pathways, and 200 for Small Community Homelessness Fund. That is actually the operating and the provision of services that the funding is for. The rest is coming out of capital and other departments for the renovations. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Nadli.