This is page numbers 2249 - 2288 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was airport.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O’Reilly. Mr. Neudorf.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Neudorf

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We’ve had several different programs that provide capital funding for airports. We do access those whenever possible. Any time you come forward with a need, you’re always needing to determine what the highest priority is and then balance that with the needs in all different modes of transportation; and in fact, the needs across multiple departments that might be wanting or able to access the same pot of federal money.

Specific to airports, there is the Airports Capital Assistance Program. It provides $35 million a year. It’s an application-based program. The $35 million a year is across Canada. We compete with all airports across Canada that are eligible. We typically get one, maybe two, projects a year that would amount to $1 or $2 million. Some current projects are we’re replacing the lighting in Norman Wells and replacing lighting in Tuktoyaktuk.

We’ve also, as part of the Building Canada Program or one of its predecessors, the Canada’s Strategic Infrastructure Fund, been able to find the funding or have airport projects be a priority there. Seven or so years ago, the Yellowknife Combined Services Building received about 50 per cent of its funding from the federal government. More recently, three terminal buildings in Paulatuk, Sachs Harbour, and Tuktoyaktuk were replaced under the Canada Stimulus Fund.

We do take every opportunity that we can in order to obtain federal government funding. The thing is you’re always subject to whatever the federal government program criteria are, so you have to make sure that your needs fit with that. You’re always competing with all of the other needs that are in all of the modes of transportation. At the present time, their Federal Engagement Strategy is really for new road construction and investing in new roads. That’s the higher priority at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Neudorf. Mr. O’Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I’m glad that the deputy minister raised the last point about the Federal Engagement Strategy. I guess I’d like to ask the Minister if he and his Cabinet colleagues are prepared to review the Federal Engagement Strategy with a view to adding in federal investment and air transportation and make that become a priority? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O’Reilly. Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. First of all, I want to point out the mandate of 18th Legislative Assembly was the three highway corridors, and that’s what we focused on. The Federal Engagement Strategy was very strategic. We wanted to keep, as we’ve said in the House, our number advanced to a minimum and it was very strategic when we went down there. We focused on those key areas moving forward. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O’Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I don’t think I actually got an answer, though. Is the Minister prepared to work with his Cabinet colleagues to change the Federal Engagement Strategy to include trying to secure federal investments in our airports? I think it is completely consistent with our mandate because, you know, looking at the mandate, they’re talking here about strategic investment, diversification of the economy, transportation, lots of things in here. I guess I’d like to know whether he and his Cabinet colleagues are prepared to change the Federal Engagement Strategy to move airports out in the priority list. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O’Reilly. Minister.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Wally Schumann

Wally Schumann Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As I said, our focus was very limited. We didn’t want to go down there with a number advanced. We’ve concentrated on energy and highway corridors when we were down there. As I have said, the mandate of the 18th Legislative Assembly has the three corridors outlined and our mandate is our priority. We will continue to focus on that. We’ll see what the Federal Government comes out with their budget here on March 22nd. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Forty-seven seconds, Mr. O’Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yes, I think that’s a no. The Minister just does not want to say it.

I’ll move on to or yield the rest of my time to somebody else, but I would like to get back on the list at another opportunity. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. O’Reilly. Anyone further? Ms. Green.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the Minister has said a number of times that the effect of the fee increase will be 0.08 per cent of an increase to the cost of living. I’d like some details about how that was calculated. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Mr. Neudorf.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Neudorf

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We had worked with the stats bureau of the government in order to try to quantify what the impact of the increase in the ticket prices would be. We looked at how much air travel component is of the average household expenditures in Yellowknife. We looked at the number of people in a household and what, if assuming the increase is going to be in the $27 to $29 per ticket range, with the number of people that would be flying, and the percentage is on the total household expenditures. It would work out to that 0.08 per cent increase. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Neudorf. Ms. Green.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for that answer. That’s the calculation for residents. What’s the calculation for the increased cost of doing business for businesses? Did you do one of those? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Mr. Neudorf.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Neudorf

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, we didn’t do any increased costs for businesses. We did look at the GNWT, and the Minister has indicated that number before that the incremental cost would be about $300,000, or about 2 per cent of the travel budget. Any business could multiply the $27 to $29 ticket price or the $17 to $19 if you’re doing travel in the North. Just multiply that by the number of times that you’re going to be flying and can come up with an impact. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Neudorf. Ms. Green.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for that response. What I heard the Minister say is that the increase would increase medical travel by $300,000, but what would the increase be to the GNWT for all the forms of flying it pays for? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank the Member for asking that, because I misspoke when I said it was $300,000 increase to medical travel. It’s a $300,000 incremental cost, the total expenditures of the Government of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.