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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In answer to that question, we will probably go through the business planning process. I think we are all eager, as you can hear today, to get that foundational review completed, look at that report, and then have the management response completed. For that, if there are any appropriations that are needed, we have to go through the business planning process that we do on a yearly basis. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Testart.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

I know that the appropriation line for Aurora College is reduced this year. What is the cause for that reduction? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister Moses.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Lovely

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am trying to find where the reduction is, what number the Member is referring to.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Mr. Testart, can I request your restatement of the question? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am not sure what the issue is. I am talking about the Aurora College line item, $32,421,000, and there is a difference between the 2017-2018 revised estimates and what is currently being proposed in the 2018-2019 estimates. Can the Minister or the department answer why there is a decrease from $32,655,000 to the current appropriation that is being proposed, of $32,421,000? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Lovely.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Lovely

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. So, last year, if you recall, during the budget session the department put forward a number of reductions for Aurora College. Those were added back in through a supplementary appropriation, and, as you can see, the 2017-2018 Main Estimates goes from $31,986,000 to the 2017-2018 revised estimates of $32,655,000. The full amount of the reduction over the two-year period that that was to take place was added back in in the 2017-2018 supplementary appropriation, and, when you move to the 2018-2019 Main Estimates, there is another offset of the second year of reduction. It is certainly a bit confusing to understand how this budget has been adjusted. It was largely a result of the process for reinstating the funding. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Lovely. Mr. Testart, one more question in the spirit of time.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

February 21st, 2018

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you for allowing me one more question, Mr. Chair. So, I understand that there is a confusing process around the reinstatements, but there is still less being proposed now, so what does that represent? What are the reductions in this year's proposal? I note it is around $300,000 that is being reduced, so what is that $300,000? Where is that coming from? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Lovely.

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Lovely

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, in 2017-2018, we had year one of the social work and the Teacher Education Program reduction. In 2018-2019, we had year two. The funding for the entire amount of that appropriation was reinstated in 2017-2018, so you are going to see a natural decrease in that, as well. We also have a sunset for a position resulting from the Sahtu Norman Wells oil and gas, a sunset associated with that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Lovely. Any further questions? Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My questions are in regards to Aurora College. We talked about the foundational review and program review. Can the Minister advise, if the two reports have different directions, which report will trump the other report? If the foundational review says we are going this way and the program review says we are going this way, which report will trump the other one? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Moses.

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Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. They are two different things. The Aurora College decided to do a review of the Social Work Program. They went ahead and are doing that right now. Our foundational review is looking at so many other different things; accountability, governance, structure, operations. They are two different reviews, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. When I was interviewed, part of the interview process was about the Social Work Program and the Teacher Education Program. Through the foundational review, one of the questions was in regards to that.

I guess I am a little concerned. The foundational review has this broad picture, and then the program review has a narrow picture. Is the Minister saying that the foundational review is the one that we are going to move forward with, or is it just saying that the foundational review will not be used when it comes to the social work and the TEP program? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Moses.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think we are getting a little ahead of the game here. The foundational review, as I mentioned, is coming near to completion. There are going to be recommendations that come out of that foundational review. We are going to develop a management response and move on from there in terms of looking at those recommendations, but cannot make any commitments or decisions at this time until we see the results of that review. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank the Minister for that answer. In regard to program reviews, when was the last time the Social Work Program was reviewed? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Moses.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That level of detail I will have to get from the Aurora College. They do review their own programs, so I will have to get that information, and I will get it back to the Member. Thank you, Mr. Chair.