This is page numbers 3305 – 3346 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Lovely. Minister Moses.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Just to reiterate what the assistant deputy minister said earlier with our Education Renewal Initiatives, putting funding into certain programs as we go through the process, as I mentioned earlier, we have a lot of initiatives on the go, and providing the financial resources to that shows the fluctuation from year to year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

February 20th, 2018

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you. Just for clarity, then, this increase to the contract services line is in order to support those programs going forward into this year? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Lovely.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Lovely

Thank you, Mr. Chair. What you see in 2017-2018 was that we had taken $2.165 million out of contract services and reallocated that to grants and contributions, fees and payments, materials and supplies, purchased services, and travel. That was the reason why that contract services amount goes down to $2.93 million. That 2.1 is being allocated throughout, to better reflect what activities we are going to undertake in 2018-2019. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Lovely. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you. Can I get a sense of some examples of what we are contracting out with this money to support these programs? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister Moses.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. What some of this money does entail is it includes the northern counselling services, the northern travelling team that will go out into the communities. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Testart.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm sorry if I'm struggling with this amount. I have asked questions about what is presented before us in this budget, and I am hearing a lot of answers about how it was used previously. I understand that this number may change, but I am looking for why the department is requesting an increase of $1 million to this. I think what I am hearing is that, the previous year, it was a considerable amount more and it was redistributed, so they are trying to harmonize it to a degree where they can still support the contract requirements that they think are going to be required for this fiscal year. I will leave it at that, but again, the clarity is helpful once we finally get there. Thanks.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Did you want to provide a reply to that, Minister Moses?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

I will just take it as a comment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Okay. Thank you, Minister. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. At the risk of causing mayhem, I do want to thank, though, the Minister of Finance and the Minister of Education and his staff for the information about the reallocation for inclusive schooling. I think the important thing to take away from this is that it is a good thing. There is now going to be extra money for JK students for 2017-2018. We are getting closer to fully funded for -- the Minister is laughing, as I am, too. In 2018-2019, the formulas are going to be changing, and that is the best solution in the long term. It is a good-news story all around.

I had a peek back at the appropriation bill that we passed for the last budget. We just ended up voting on departmental totals. If there are reallocations within a department, that is not a big deal, but the public sees main estimates. We see main estimates, and if there are changes between when the main estimates are printed and when we start to talk about them on the floor of the House, having a document that summarizes those changes would be helpful in avoiding, perhaps, some of the discussion that we had earlier. I understand now what is happening, and I thank the Ministers for their explanation. It is a good-news story, but maybe we can avoid this in the future.

I want to turn to page 41 of the departmental budget. I had the same question as my colleague about the change in contract services, but I want to move to the travel line, which, from 2016-2017, it was $1,037,000. In 2018-2019, it has actually doubled now, more than doubled, so can I have some explanation of why there is a big increase in travel happening over a few years? Thanks, Mr. Speaker.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. We will take your comments to the Finance Minister as notice. Minister Moses, if you can go back to the question provided by Mr. O'Reilly. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Every year, we hold symposiums, conferences for teachers, and that is included in this budget line. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. So, are there extra events that are happening between 2016-2017 and 2018-2019, or are these cyclical conferences or something? I am just trying to understand why there is a doubling of the travel budget between those years. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister Moses.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Alfred Moses

Alfred Moses Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Like I mentioned, it goes to conferences, training for our education personnel as well as staff and teachers. Just recently with this conference, we had actually brought in our student support staff for the first time, as well as our junior kindergarten teachers. So it is reflective of that, but I do not have a detailed list of all of the upcoming events for this year, if that is what the Member is referring to. Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. O'Reilly.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Okay, I accept that, and I believe that is important for our staff, to be able to have professional development and to bring folks who are experts together to talk about these things. I will leave it alone. I was just trying to figure out: is there a conference that happens every two or three years that results in a larger travel budget, or something? That is okay. I am going to let this one go.

I want to turn, though, to the next page, which I believe contains the contributions to the district education authorities. I know, in last year's budget and I think it is reflected in the business plan, as well -- I know it is reflected in the business plan -- there was to be a reduction of $200,000 on school administration to the district education authorities. Can the Minister just tell us where that work is at? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister Moses.