Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. Hagen.
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Hagen
Mr. Chair, yes, that's correct. ITI and our subs, we looked at the recent advances in agricultural techniques, as I mentioned, permaculture, greenhouse culture; and these present opportunities for sustainable agriculture production conducted in areas not previously considered feasible. Those areas were mostly outside the prime agricultural lands that are withdrawn for land claims. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Julie Green Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thanks to the witnesses for their answers. Nothing further.
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm assuming this is where, the agricultural lands, this is the area we talk about them? So in my reply to the budget, there were some concerns that I heard from a number of residents in regard to leases and the cost to actually using these leases and that. Can the Minister tell us if agricultural lands have a different equity that they have to pay to get this, or is it similar to a tank farm? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Hagen
You would fill out an application for an agricultural purpose and undergo the department's standard lease application and review process. That being said, with the interest in agricultural lands, the department has not received an application for an agricultural development at this time. It is all laid out in the commercial lease application that is submitted to the Department of Lands. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to the deputy minister for that. Could we get clarification that the security needed for a greenhouse is similar to a tank farm? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Hagen
Thank you, Mr. Chair. A tank farm or a large-scale development would require a land use permit from the Mackenzie Valley Land and Water Board. In that process, they might also be sent to an environmental assessment. If they are successful in getting a land use permit for a tank farm or an agricultural or a large-scale greenhouse development, then the Land and Water Board would set the securities that they felt were needed to protect the environment and people. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Hagen for that answer. Just to clarify, it is not the Department of Lands that puts the security to it. It is another agency. Is that correct? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Hagen
Let's take a tank farm example where they require a lease. The Department of Lands would run a risk model and we would put forth security on the actual land lease. The developer would have to, like I mentioned, go to the Mackenzie Valley Land and Water Board or the Sahtu or the Tlicho to apply for a land use permit to apply for the actual development. On that development, the land and water boards would put on the security. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank Mr. Hagen for that answer. However, I am talking about agricultural land now. We are talking about greenhouses and that, and we are talking about security. Is it the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act that does it, or is it the Department of Lands that actually puts the security on it? I am trying to get to who actually puts security to making people put a security down. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Hagen
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I believe I just answered the Member's question. They have to get a lease if it is on territorial lands, which most of them will be. On that lease, the department, depending on the development, would run a model and put a security on just our lease to protect our lease. If it is a farm development that is above the threshold that requires a land use permit, and the threshold is very low, then they would go to the Mackenzie Valley or any other regional land and water boards and, if the permit is successful, they will put the securities on the actual physical development on that leased land. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Shane Thompson Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank Mr. Hagen. You didn't answer my question before, but you did now because basically we were talking about tank farms and I was actually trying to find out about the agricultural land, so I thank you very much for that clarification. My challenge is that I have individuals who are wishing to develop greenhouses within my riding. They keep on coming back to it. When the department works with these people, do they actually walk them through the process of what they have to do in this area? Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Hagen
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I believe we are talking about the Fort Simpson, Deh Cho region. We have an office in Fort Simpson with a superintendent and a few officers. Yes, anyone who wants to come to the office, they would gladly sit them down and walk them through the lease application and what is required to go forth with an actual development. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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