This is page numbers 3347 – 3406 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Originally, when this was proposed, one of the only options was actually the City of Yellowknife. We looked at partnering with them. Sometimes things take more time than I expected at the beginning. When we decided that this was going to go through, we actually did more research, and we found that it was actually not only more cost-effective to partner with the Med Alert team, but it also provides a better service. The City of Yellowknife would have needed infrastructure changes to accommodate it. By providing the service with Med Alert and sharing the services, we can actually give better provision of services to the residents of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair, and I want to thank the Minister for that explanation. Is there going to be any involvement with the City of Yellowknife moving forward on 911, other than the city dispatching its emergency services as required by 911? Is there any other engagement or involvement with the city as this rolls out? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister Cochrane.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, every community will have a piece to play within the 911 rollout. We need all communities to be able to identify what their resources are and to coordinate those with us. The City of Yellowknife also will be hopefully taking part in some of the training that we will provide. Other than that, that is how we see it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

I don't have anything further. Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you. Next, we have Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I think this might be really quick. I see in program management an exclusion of $370,000. Could you explain that reduction? I guess, the 911 program, is that where the money is going and why we have a reduction in the program management area? Thank you.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Just a reminder to wait until the light is on before you start speaking or it kind of cuts out a bit. Minister Cochrane.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is actually quite cumbersome with the $370,000. We allocated some resources to establish a senior policy analysis that was $15,000. The 911, at the beginning, we estimated that we would need money. Let me just look. Actually, Mr. Chair, this is quite cumbersome. I am going to switch it to Gary Schauerte, if you are okay with that.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. I'm okay with that, Mr. Schauerte.

---Laughter

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Schauerte

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The change in figure that has been asked about represents a few different changes that have taken place within the unit.

The first one the Minister referenced was the creation of a senior policy position. We have used internal resources to create that position, largely to address concerns raised through the Office of the Auditor General related to fire protection services. Our response to this is to create a position that is working very closely with community governments on fire protection plans and the implementation of the Fire Protection Strategy for the Northwest Territories.

The creation of this position also allows for the department to look at succession planning for things like our Office of the Fire Marshal, which are obviously critical functions to the department. Ensuring that we have succession planning in that area is vital to our operations.

The majority of the rest of the changes represent changes that we have made subsequent to the business plan related to the 911 program. At the time when we appeared before committee related to the 911 program, we had envisioned the potential to be able to implement in the 2018-2019 fiscal year, including bringing on resource revenue or revenue related to the 911 program. As we continued to investigate the implementation of the 911 program, and as we explained during the business planning process, it became clear that we had to look at a different implementation model.

Subsequent to that time, our department has undertaken that research to complete the implementation model, and we did return to the Financial Management Board to readjust our funding allocation related to the 911 program. The net at the end is that we have given up projected revenues for the 2018-2019, because we won't actually be implementing in 2018-2019. The remainder, in total, is about $606,000 to support the implementation of 911, which is spread amongst a few categories under program detail. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Schauerte. Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank Mr. Schauerte for that answer. If I wasn't confused before, I am getting there now. The senior policy position, is that in program management or the 911 program area? I guess that is the way to look at it first. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Cochrane.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The senior policy analyst position is actually with the Office of the Fire Marshal, and as Mr. Schauerte said, it is actually to give assistance in bringing forward the Fire Prevention Act and the community fire protection plans that are needed. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you. In the Office of the Fire Marshal, we have seen a $15,000 increase. There have been reallocations in that office to get a new position; is that correct?

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Cochrane.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, we have done reallocations internally to be able to provide that position within our headquarters department at the Office of the Fire Marshal. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

I wonder what caused management to lose $370,000. I shouldn't say "lost." We reallocated $370,000 between the Office of the Fire Marshal and the 911 program, to simply things. Is that correct, saying that?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Cochrane.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Yes, Mr. Chair. As Mr. Schauerte said, we had planned for implementation this current year; it's been pushed back a year. So we actually reallocated that money. So, yes, the MLA is correct. Thank you.