This is page numbers 3347 – 3406 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)
Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. Thompson.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am just going on for the record, again, saying that this is probably one of the silliest cuts I have seen, and I do not support this. However, I am going to have to have an internal struggle with the budget. I have had the conversation with some people here about whether I am going to support it or not, but right now, this is an internal struggle I have. I honestly believe that these games belong to the Northwest Territories, and the Government of the Northwest Territories should be putting money into it and not taking it out of lotteries. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. I will take that as a comment. Any further questions, committee? Seeing none, I call the page, support for recreation and youth, operations expenditure summary, $5,342,000. Does committee agree?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Agreed. Thank you. That brings us to page 366. It's just information on page 366 and 367. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I know this is an information item, but I have a question for the Minister on the gas tax. I can't remember last year how we ended up with $11 million extra in gas tax. Could the Minister just refresh my memory? Thank you.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Cochrane.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The $11 million was actually just a carry-over figure from the previous year. Mr. Chair, I will let Ms. Young expand on that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Ms. Young.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Young

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, the way that the gas tax program works, we have a funding agreement with each community, and as they maintain their compliance, we issue payments twice a year. If there is an issue with compliance, we work with the community to try to bring them back into compliance, but if they are in non-compliance, we have to hold the money in accordance with our agreement with Canada until we bring them back in to compliance.

What you saw there was an accumulation of issues related to non-compliance. We have resolved most of those now with communities, but we continue to work with communities to maintain the compliance with their agreement. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Ms. Young. Any further questions, Mr. Beaulieu?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

No. That's okay.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Committee, it's actually information item from page 364 to 367. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to follow up on my colleague's questions about gas tax reporting, then. I heard the deputy minister say that we are working with communities to improve compliance. What does that actually look like? Are we sending folks to the communities to assist with preparation of reports? I have no idea. What are we doing to improve the reporting so that the money is going to flow better into the future? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister Cochrane.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have a variety of training programs offered through the School of Community Government. We have webinars that we provide for them. If a community is struggling, we do pay close attention, and we will send someone into that community to try to work with them to ensure that that community meets the requirements of any funding applications that they have outstanding. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I am glad to hear that. I know that we have a circuit rider program for water treatment training and so on, and if we need one on the Finance side, that would be a good use of money, I think, to make sure that the money flows properly. I don't have to tell the department this; they know this stuff, but I appreciate their efforts on improving the reporting. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister, do you care to comment?

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will take that as a comment.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you. Any further questions? Next, we have Mr. O'Reilly. Sorry, Mr. McNeely.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Daniel McNeely

Daniel McNeely Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I realize it is getting late here. I just don't want to be mistaken for someone else here, please. That is what I am getting at, is the compliment here portion, to the Minister.

I am a strong believer on these three particular programs: the Gas Tax, the Small Community Fund, and the Clean Waste Water Fund. To give you some examples of how well I think it is working, and the weakness part, is now the Community of Colville Lake has a new water intake facility, providing cleaner product to go into the delivery truck.

Last year, I was very happy to witness the dust control liquids going to improve the roads around Deline. Now we don't have this dust blowing all over the place and people having to close their windows all the time.

Those are just examples of what I think this program is doing for the smaller communities. I am glad to hear the deputy minister is addressing the weakness part of the administration, which is compliance and reporting. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Minister Cochrane.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

Caroline Cochrane

Caroline Cochrane Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will take that as a compliment, and I will share that with our department. Thank you, again, to the MLA. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters (Reversion)

The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Cochrane. Any further questions, Mr. McNeely? No further questions on page 364 to 367? Seeing none, we will now return to the departmental summary on page 331.

Municipal and Community Affairs, total department, $107,177,000. Does committee agree?