This is page numbers 3305 – 3346 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.

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Herbert Nakimayak

Herbert Nakimayak Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm just on page 42, and we're looking at the healthy food for children and youth. I just have a question. I know we're getting into income security later on. I'm looking at the funding for healthy food for children and youth. I know recently the Department of ECE is giving cash to income security recipients and clients. I'm wondering if that's going to have an uptake on the breakfast program and the food for children and youth such as breakfast programs around the territory, and if that's going to have an effect. I'm just wondering if the department is going to have any forward-thinking issues to mitigate that once that becomes a possible issue across the territory, mainly in smaller communities where there are a lot of income security clients? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Nakimayak. Minister.

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Lovely

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's something we need to monitor. With the income assistance, we fund families for their most basic needs. As I mentioned yesterday, we fund breakfast, lunch, and snack programs throughout the Northwest Territories that do have an impact on our students. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Nothing further from Mr. Nakimayak. Next on my list is Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, what I'm wondering is: I follow now the explanation that the assistance deputy minister has given about where the money is being reallocated, and it's enrolment-based and so on. Is this page, page 41 of the main estimates, going to be changed to reflect the reality of the reallocation that the ADM talked about? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

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Lovely

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Not the main estimates that we're going through right now, but it will be revised in the next 2019-2020 Main Estimates. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, in terms of creating a record on this commitment, is Hansard the only thing that we have to rely on in order to capture this commitment? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. I will address that to the Minister of Finance. Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, my apologies to committee. I know that there were a lot of concerns about this particular issue. As far as I was concerned, it was quite straight-forward, but I didn't know that. Recognizing that the committee had a number of questions, I had sent a letter off. I'm not sure if the chair of standing committee has it yet, but I do have the letter here. I'm not sure how we want to deal with this. This gives a fairly good explanation in writing as to issue that the folks from ECE are talking about. Hopefully, this will help clarify some of that, so Hansard wouldn't be the only record. You would have it. This would be the record you would have of it here.

I think it's fairly straight-forward and it explains it, in my opinion, fairly well. I think it's gone off to the clerk of the committee, but I don't think committee has an opportunity to see it yet.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Through you, thank you to the Finance Minister for that. Just to complete the record in Hansard, I see the letter isn't long. Could the Finance Minister just read it into the record so that we can put this issue to bed? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

If it means putting this issue to bed, I will be more than happy to read the letter; it's not very long, if that's okay with the Chair and the Minister and the Premier and the public at large.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

I see heads nodding, so, Minister McLeod, please proceed with reading the letter into the record.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the letter is addressed to Mr. Tom Beaulieu, chairman of the standing committee and priorities in planning, 2018-2019 Main Estimates. As was noted in my letter of January 29, 2018, $881,000 was approved to be reallocated to the inclusion of junior kindergarten enrolments in determining inclusive schooling funding. This amount is included in the $154.9 million in the education authority contributions described on page 42 and 43 of the 2018-2019 Main Estimates.

As I am sure the Members can appreciate, estimates of enrolments are used for inclusion in the budgeting process from the previous year. Recently it was determined that enrolments had dropped by 1.9 per cent. What the FMB has directed is, rather than lapse the funding and returning it to general revenue, Education, Culture and Employment are to re-direct that funding to inclusive schooling. Should enrolments increase unexpectedly for 2018-2019, the department would seek supplementary funding as appropriate. Other financial commitments identified as part of our agreement will be included as part of the supplementary appropriations number 1 for 2018-2019. I trust this provides the needed clarification. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'd like to thank the Finance Minister for clarifying. I feel like there was another nugget of information in there that we didn't have before. From my point of view, I am completely satisfied that we now understand the money, where it came from, where it's going, and that it will be in place in the next budget. I'd like to thank the Finance Minister for that.

With that, Mr. Chair, I have some other unrelated questions on this page. Is now the right time to ask those?

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Since this issue has been settled and I was going to allow him to speak to this particular issue twice, I'd like it if we could move on from this issue, but I will allow your remaining time to discuss this final issue before I call the page. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, there are some reports that are important to schools and educational authorities which we have not yet seen and which were promised to us prior to this time in the business planning process. I'll start with, first of all, the Yellowknife School Space Study. A draft of that report was completed in the fall and we were told to expect to see that study in January. We're now told we won't see it until April. I'm wondering what the delay is in sharing this information even on a confidential basis with committee. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

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Lovely

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That specific study, there's more than just the Department of Education, Culture and Employment that's involved. There's also the Department of Infrastructure and the Department of Finance. Collectively, we're working on the joint response to that space study here in Yellowknife. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I recognize that this space study is a multi-department undertaking, but that was always the case. The report was promised to us before January and we're not seeing it until April. I'm going to ask again: what is the delay in sharing this report with committee, even on a confidential basis? Thank you.