Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, what audited financial statement is the Member looking at? Is it an NWT or NTHSSA audited financial statement, or is it the other books, and what date is it? What date, March 31?

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Mr. Thompson.

NTHSSA financial statement of March 31, 2017. It says $67.12. I guess I'm trying to get a clear understanding of this because it does have an impact if our numbers are going up to $92. If it's gone from $67 to $92 million, then we're missing this number. I'm just trying to get a clear picture of the amalgamation. We are supposed to be actually saving money in this area, and I understand we're just in the process, but it seems to be our debt is starting to go higher in this area. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Abernethy.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I'm not an accountant, so I will go to somebody who is much better with numbers than I, the director of finance, Jeannie Mathison.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Ms. Mathison.

Thank you, Ms. Mathison. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank Ms. Mathison. Now I understand the better picture. It is very clear, because in the new auditing process, we need to show that as a debt. I greatly appreciate that. When will we start to see some savings? Because right now my understanding is that we're $92 million projected by the end of this fiscal year. When will we start seeing savings with this transformation? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Mr. Cooper.

Thank you, Mr. Cooper. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I thank Mr. Cooper for that answer. With this plan being in place, will this plan be shared with the standing Committee on Social Development? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Mr. Cooper.

Thank you, Mr. Cooper. Minister Abernethy.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a point of clarity. I mean, there's a significant amount of work we have to do here to control costs. As we move to a single authority, we were always very clear that this isn't about saving money, but we do believe strongly there's an opportunity to have better control of costs, control of growth, and an opportunity to make sure that we're getting maximum value for dollar, and spending it appropriately. It doesn't necessarily mean savings. It means efficiencies and opportunities to make sure the money is going to the right place to give us the best services possible. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Recognizing the time, I will allow one more. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'll try to be real quick. I guess I'm a little bit concerned at how we're going to be able to pay the Finance Minister the $92 million if we're not seeing, I understand the efficiencies and that, but if we can suddenly see this growth of a debt, we're going to be owing that Finance Minister some huge amount of money after a few number of years. Is this part of the plan? I understand we don't want to affect the quality of it, but at some point in time, we need to make some savings so that we can help alleviate some of the costs. Is that part of the process? I understand that, but you can't effect the delivery of it, but are we able to put something in there that we're going to see a decrease in our deficit? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Abernethy.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Debt repayment is part of our cost now and will continue to be a part of our costs in the future, so yes, absolutely. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Mr. Simpson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I believe we're on page 195 here. Can I get some detail on the $300,000 or $400,000, yes, about $300,000 reduction for the Hay River Health and Social Services Authority and some clarification if it has anything to do with the position change that can be found on the next page, where I see decrease in two full-time positions and an increase in two part-time positions? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Simpson. Minister Abernethy.