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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I don't think the Department of Justice has a system of tracking these things. I suppose we could. I suppose the police do track these things. Most of these statistics, I believe, we get from the RCMP, whether it is this type of offence or another kind. I believe the police would provide us with information with respect to charges or perhaps convictions. I'm not certain. We do get statistics from the RCMP about various offences, but I don't think the Department of Justice itself is tracking this. We may be able to obtain information. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the department may not be doing it, but the RCMP should be tracking this, because we are supposed to be seeing a decline in the sale of cannabis, the illegal part of it. I guess I am looking forward to maybe you asking the RCMP to add that as part of their report to you. Can you get at least that done through that way? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister Sebert.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes. I suppose I can ask. I mean, one of the points of the legalization was to remove this from the black market. We will know what sales are in the Northwest Territories, and I would like to think that is money that is taken out of the hands of criminals. That was one of the major points of the legislation.

As I said, this was long in coming. I mean, if you are asking me how much the market for marijuana has been diminished by the change of law, that is rather hard to determine because it was a black market before. I would hope that the fact that now it is being sold legally in some of the stores in the Northwest Territories that that has reduced the illegal trade, and logic would tell me that is true, but I don't know if there is any way to mathematically verify that. Logic tells me that is true. Thank you.

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. Thompson.

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Shane Thompson

Shane Thompson Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess my concern is I am still hearing of people selling cannabis. What I am asking, though, was if the RCMP is able to confirm with you if they have been able to convict or charge people with this, for selling it, trafficking it. That is what I am asking. I will hope that they are able to give that to you and you are able to report to the House and the committee on that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Did you want to provide a reply to that comment there, Minister Sebert?

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes. I thank the Member for his comments. I mean, for example, in the liquor trade, we do have people charged for selling illegally. I will bring this concern that has been mentioned to the RCMP. Yes, it is probably true that there are still people selling marijuana, but I would hope that the majority of those who wish to acquire marijuana are going to the store and buying it, just as they do with liquor. Yes, there is still liquor that is being sold illegally, and, yes, there is still marijuana that is probably being sold illegally. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Any further questions on this activity? Seeing none, I will call out on page 289, Department of Justice, policing services, operations expenditure summary, $46,257,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

For the record, I will call that total again here. $46,257,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Daniel McNeely

Okay. We will move on to page 291, Department of Justice, services to government, operations expenditure summary, $11,908,000. The details are from 293. Any questions to this activity? Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, could I ask a question of clarification to start with, that the Victims Assistance Fund information on page 297 is a part of this segment of the budget? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister Sebert.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Yes, I understand that it falls under community justice and policing, but we can certainly take the questions if there are questions.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Okay. It wasn't clear to me exactly which segment that is in, because it is right after "services to the public." My question is about the Victims Assistance Fund. I see here that it is running a deficit of $359,000, and that is up another $50,000 over last year. Can the Minister explain to us why this fund is growing and whether there are any plans to disperse more information according to the current criteria? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister Sebert.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I understand that, actually, this is a surplus, but perhaps I could have Ms. Bolstad expand on my answer.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Ms. Bolstad.

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Bolstad

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, that is correct. That is it is a $359,000 anticipated surplus in 2019-2020. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Daniel McNeely

Thank you, Ms. Bolstad. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Yes, I misspoke. I realize it is a surplus. I am asking why there is such a large surplus in this fund and whether there are plans to spend it down. Thank you.