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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Chair, it mostly shows up on page 176 under line B, community and mental health and addictions and, yes, $1.734 million.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Mr. Chair, I think it is important to recognize because, if you just added one number to the next, it wouldn't add up, but there have been some sunsets in that area as well. There was a grant in kind to Rockhill Apartments that would have fallen into this line that has been sunsetted. There is a home and community care, mental health and addictions service bilateral funding agreement, $300,000. That is one that is coming back, right? So that will come back, and then there is $542,000 for the Mental Health Act implementation, and that also comes back. Then there is some money that was allocated to the Yellowknife sobering centre, which has also sort of sunsetted, but we're bringing it back through other means. So It doesn't add up. We can provide the breakdown to show where the ins and outs are, so that it is clear.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sure, a breakdown would be helpful. I guess the other thing I am trying to understand is why the money appears in two places instead of just in one. Why doesn't that day shelter money get included in the line that has community mental health and addictions? Thank you.

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The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Ms. Mathison.

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Mathison

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is really just the way the budget for the project evolved. It started with an allocation from the antipoverty fund, and then we forward to request the additional money through the business planning process as a separate project and just loaded the budget in two different spots because of that. They are, yes, they are all funding the one project. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Ms. Mathison. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you for that response. Is there any thought to actually combining them and calling them "the day shelter and the sobering centre" and putting them into one place under contribution agreements to the service provider? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It seems like a reasonable recommendation. We will endeavour to do that for the next budget that is before the House.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you to the witnesses for their responses. I have nothing further.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Any further questions, committee? Seeing none, I will call the page. Community health programs, operations expenditure summary, 2019-2020 main estimates, $180,818,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Agreed. Thank you. That brings us to community social programs, operations expenditure summary, 2019-2020 main estimates, $34,325,000, from pages 180 to 183. Any questions from committee? Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am aware that the money for family violence has increased in this budget, and that will certainly be welcome to service providers. On what basis was this money increased? Does it tie to the shelter standards that have been discussed in years gone by? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We have been working for a while with the shelters and the shelter network to develop a funding formula that makes sense. We are not a hundred percent done that work, but we figured we had made enough progress to build a solid business case that would allow us to start making valuable increases in this area, which is why you see the $500,000 increase, which represents about a 15-percent increase overall to the shelters.

What we do know is that a lot of other jurisdictions are only partially funded in this area and that they raise a lot of money on their own, which is true here as well. We are looking at finishing our work and making sure that starting this year, but in future years, we are getting the funding right for these important family-violence shelters here in the Northwest Territories. This is an important step.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Ms. Green.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is something the Minister and I can agree on. What is the status of the shelters standards work? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister Abernethy.

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Glen Abernethy

Glen Abernethy Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That work is ongoing. They are all embedded and sort of tied together and will be part of the formula, as well. Our expectation is to be completed before the end of this term. Hopefully, you know, summertime, late spring is kind of what we are hoping, but, recognizing that we do occasionally have human resource challenges, hopefully, it won't be delayed too far beyond then.

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The Chair

The Chair Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Minister Abernethy. Ms. Green.