In the Legislative Assembly on February 27th, 2019. See this topic in context.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Finance. Two years ago, his colleague, the Minister of Infrastructure, told the Member for Yellowknife North that the all-in cost of the road to Whati was estimated at $175 million. The cost of building the road announced this month is 20 percent higher than that figure. Why are construction costs so much higher now than two years ago? Mahsi.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister of Finance.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The direct construction cost, I think the Member made it in her statement before, $185 million. The total capital cost of $214 million, that would include the crude interest, predevelopment costs, and also GNWT costs for geotechnical studies, the EA process, project management, and provide funding for the measures resulting from the EA process Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate the Minister's response, but I didn't hear an answer. In two years, the two figures have differed by 20 percent. Can he tell us why that is?

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

The initial $175 million from the cost two years ago, since then obviously, the price to direct construction cost went up to $185 million. That is a $10 million difference. Maybe the prices of material and things have changed. I am not sure exactly what that $10 million is made up of, but I can get that information and provide that information to the Member.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate that commitment from the Minister. I don't recall any discussion of the potential costs of operations and maintenance prior to the announcement earlier this month. I note that the Minister of Infrastructure didn't repeat the all-in cost of $411 million in his statement last week. My question is: what efforts did the government make to inform the public of the actual all-in costs of this road, given that it was more than double any estimate that had been voiced publicly?

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

The direct construction costs are $185 million, as was noted previously. The total capital cost was $214 million, as was noted previously as well as some of the reasons the cost was that high. The $400 million through the P3 partnership, that would represent the total value of the 28-year contract with NorthStar Infrastructure, who are the proponents of the Whati road, of which 25 years of operations and maintenance payments are included.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I didn't hear an answer in that, but I am going to push on. The Minister has said that this P3 project will save over 15 percent compared to a traditional model. Can the Minister provide an explanation or why this would be the case? Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

I believe there was an answer to the Member's previous question in the response that I provided. They wanted to know why it was $411 million, and I explained that was through the 28-year contract with NorthStar Infrastructure. I think that was self-explanatory.

The 15 percent, compared to a traditional model, this represents a value for money that results from a P3 contract over if, the GNWT, we were to construct it, operate, and maintain the road as a GNWT project, we would pay in excess of 15 percent more than the cost that I had quoted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 625-18(3): Tlicho All-Season Road Costs
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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.