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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am pleased to provide opening comments on Bill 55, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 1. This bill makes a number of changes to the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act to implement recommendations of the independent commission to review Members' compensation and benefits, as well as other updates required prior to the upcoming general election. Specifically, the bill proposes the following:

  • Repeals the provision to defer the territorial general election to a later date in the event of an overlap with a federal election;
  • Exempts certain Legislative Assembly staff and constituency assistants from jury service during session;
  • Ties a number of important dates to polling day as opposed to the date set for the return of the writs of election;
  • Amends the timing of the appointment and term of the independent commission to review Members' compensation and benefits;
  • Makes the appointment process for the Law Clerk and Sergeant-at-Arms the same as the Clerk of the Legislative Assembly and enables the board of management to suspend these officers with or without pay; and
  • Makes provision for the affirmation of various oaths.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This concludes my opening comments on Bill 55, and I am happy to answer any questions that members may have. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Blake. I understand you have witnesses, so I would ask the Sergeant-at-Arms to escort the witnesses into the Chamber. Mr. Blake, you may take your place in the hot seat. Thank you, committee. I will ask Mr. Blake to introduce his witnesses for the record. Mr. Blake.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Frederick Blake Jr. Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. To my left, I have Mike Reddy, legislative division, and my right-hand man, Mr. Tim Mercer.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Welcome to the witnesses. I will open the floor to general comments on Bill 55 if there are any. Seeing no general comments, we can proceed to a clause-by-clause review of the bill. Committee, please open up your big grey binders. Turn to Bill 55, page 1. We will defer the bill number and title until after consideration of the clauses. There are 18 clauses. I will call each one individually. If committee agrees, please respond accordingly. Clause 1.

---Clauses 1 through 18 inclusive approved

Thank you, committee. We will now return to the bill number and title. Bill 55: An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 1. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. To the bill as a whole, does committee agree that Bill 55 is now ready for third reading?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Bill 55 is now ready for third reading. Does committee agree this concludes our consideration of Bill 55?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Thank you to the Member from Mackenzie Delta. Thank you to the witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, you may escort the witnesses from the Chamber. Committee, we have agreed to consider Tabled Document 443-18(3): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2019-2020. I will turn to the Minister of Finance for opening remarks. Minister McLeod.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am here to present Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 2019-2020. This document proposes an increase of $78.5 million to the infrastructure budget.

These supplementary estimates include the following items:

  • $122.6 million for infrastructure carry-overs from 2018-2019 to 2019-2020;
  • Negative $22 million for amendments to amounts and timing of the long-term care facility projects in Hay River and Inuvik;
  • Negative $13.8 million for amendments to amounts and timing of the Tlicho all-season road project; and
  • Negative $6.7 million for amendments to amounts and timing of projects included in the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Plan.

That concludes my opening remarks. Mr. Chair, I would be happy to answer any questions Members may have. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Does committee have any general comments, noting that we will be discussing the document in detail? Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Is this the appropriate time to ask questions of the Minister?

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

No. This is the time for general comments. We will wait until the Minister takes the witness stand with his witnesses. Are there any general comments from Mr. Testart? None? Anything from Mr. O'Reilly? Nothing? All right. I understand there are witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber. Minister, please take your seat at the witness table. Minister, please introduce your witnesses to the House.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. To my right, I have Mr. David Stewart, who is the deputy minister of Finance. To my left, I have Mr. Jaime Koe, who is our Comptroller General, Department of Finance. Thank you.

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The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. I will now open the floor once again to general comments, this time with the witnesses at the witness table. First, Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In the Minister's opening remarks, he mentioned the supplementary estimates represent $122.6 million for infrastructure carry-overs. This has come up in a number of capital budget reviews, and concerns have been raised around the large amount of carry-overs. Can the Minister comment to the progress that has been made to address these concerns around carry-overs, especially large amount such as this? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. I will direct this to Mr. Stewart.

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Stewart

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The issue of carry-overs is always something we are looking at. This year at $121.8 million is actually the lowest amount during the 18th Assembly. We work with departments to make sure that they have got all of the pieces in place before they put forward infrastructure requests. The average, just for the committee, for 18th Assembly was around $133 million, so it is a slight improvement. This year, when you look at the projects that got carried over from 2018-2019, there is a significant portion of them that are quite large projects. What that means in these cases is there are issues like projects timing or permitting or engagement with communities or even federal agreements. That can have a big impact on the value of the carry-overs, and I think you see that in the values that are here. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Well, I won't get too far into detail, but I mean some of these items are around records systems replacement and other information projects like that, roof repairs for the Legislative Assembly, so I mean it just seems like these are not all contingent on externalities like federal infrastructure agreements. What specific actions is the department or the Financial Management Board contemplating to address this? Is there any indication that the Minister can give at this time? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Robert C. McLeod

Robert C. McLeod Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As the deputy said, this is one of the lower amounts in the life of this Assembly, and we have had some federal money that we had to get out of the door. There are some projects, I mean if they go back April 1st, I think we have to put in for a carry-over. If we can get them all in a fiscal year, then that would eliminate the need. I have given direction to some of the departments in my conversations with my FMB colleagues that we need to take a close look at carry-overs, and, if projects are not in the hopper, there is nothing being done to them, if they are just carrying the money over, then we may have to look at pulling that money back and using it for other projects that are quite ready to go. Again, it's not such a bad thing to have this amount of carry-over. It means that we had a lot of infrastructure investments with the federal money and all and the money that we have. It's just getting the projects out the door has been a bit of a challenge, but I think we are starting to meet that challenge, therefore the lower amount in carry-overs. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. Testart.

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Kieron Testart

Kieron Testart Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Approximately how much of this $122.6 million is federal money? Thank you.