In the Legislative Assembly on August 19th, 2019. See this topic in context.

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Committee Clerk

The Member for Kam Lake, the Member for Frame Lake, the Member for Yellowknife Centre, the Member for Deh Cho, the Member for Yellowknife North.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those opposed, please rise.

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Committee Clerk

The Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh, the Member for Nahendeh, the Member for Nunakput, the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, the Member for Range Lake, the Member for Great Slave, the Member for Yellowknife South, the Member for Twin Lakes, the Member for Hay River South, the Member for Thebacha, the Member for Mackenzie Delta, the Member for Sahtu.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those abstaining, please rise. The results of the recorded vote are: five in favour, 12 opposed, zero abstentions.

---Defeated

Clause 22. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. To the schedule. Minister McLeod.

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Committee Clerk

The Member for Frame Lake, the Member Yellowknife Centre, the Member for Deh Cho, the Member for Yellowknife North, the Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh, the Member for Nahendeh.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those opposed, please rise.

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Committee Clerk

The Member for Nunakput, the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, the Member for Range Lake, the Member for Great Slave, the Member for Yellowknife South, the Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, the Member for Hay River South, the Member for Thebacha, the Member for Mackenzie Delta, the Member for Sahtu, the Member for Kam Lake.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those abstaining, please rise. The results of the recorded vote are: six in favour, 11 opposed, zero abstentions.

---Defeated

---Clauses 8 through 70 inclusive approved

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Clauses 71 through 80. Does committee agree? Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I would like to start with a couple of questions for the Minister. Clause 80 deals with the coming-into-force date of the bill. Can the Minister tell us when that will be? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Subject, of course, to priorities of the next Assembly, we expect it to be 12 to 24 months. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Sorry, I couldn't quite catch it all. I think the Minister said 24 months. Why would it take one or two years to actually bring this bill into force? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I think my estimate was 12 to 24 months, but perhaps I can get some assistance on that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Ms. Bard.

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Bard

Sure. Before the act is brought into force, there are a number of regulations under the existing two lands acts that need to be addressed. There will be some harmonization necessary in the Commissioner's land regulations and the territorial land regulations. That will necessitate some further engagement and so on. There are a number of land withdrawals that will need to be reregistered, and there are the coring regulations, among other regulations, that will all need to be reviewed and reregistered.

To account for the time that that work takes and any engagement necessary, we want to make sure that we can do those things before bringing the act into force, but the objective is to do it as quickly as possible. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. How is that information going to be communicated to the public? We had a significant number of individuals and municipal governments, Indigenous governments, come to committee and talk about some of the issues that committee raised in the report. How is this information about implementation of this bill, and maybe some potential fixes for some of these issues, communicated to the public? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

We will be communicating with the public to provide them with this information. I think a commitment was made to committee, also. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I am not going to flog this one any further, other than to suggest that the department should develop some kind of an implementation plan, share that with Regular MLAs in the next Assembly, and make that available to the public so that they know how the bill itself and the provisions in here are going to roll out over time. Some pretty high expectations have been set, and maybe some expectations have been crashed. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. More of a comment. Would the Minister care to respond? Minister.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

Point taken.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you. To clauses 71 to 80. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Mr. O'Reilly.

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

The Member for Frame Lake, the Member for Yellowknife Centre, the Member for Deh Cho, the Member for Yellowknife North, the Member for Kam Lake, the Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh, the Member for Nahendeh.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those opposed, please rise.

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Clerk Of The House Mr. Tim Mercer

The Member for Nunakput, the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, the Member for Range Lake, the Member for Great Slave, the Member for Yellowknife South, the Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, the Member for Hay River South, the Member for Thebacha, the Member for Sahtu.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

All those abstaining, please rise. The results of the recorded vote are: seven in favour, nine opposed, zero abstentions. The motion is defeated.

---Defeated

Committee, please return to the bill number and title. Bill 46, Public Land Act. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. To the bill as a whole. Does committee agree that Bill 46, Public Land Act, is now ready for third reading?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, committee. Bill 46 is now ready for third reading. Does committee agree this concludes consideration of Bill 46?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Before we conclude, the Minister has something he would like to say. Minister Sebert.

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Louis Sebert

Louis Sebert Thebacha

I would like to thank committee for all of their work on this. I know that there has been a lot of time pressure on it, which is never good, and there was a question which I didn't answer very well about communicating with the public, and, of course, we will do that. So thanks to everybody for their cooperation and hard work in view of the time pressure we've been under. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Minister. This concludes consideration of Bill 46. I want to thank the Minister and the witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, you may escort the witnesses from the Chamber. Members, we have concluded the business we agreed to consider. What is the wish of committee? Mr. Beaulieu.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tom Beaulieu Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that Chair rise and report progress. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair R.J. Simpson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. There is a motion to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed?

---Carried

I will rise and report progress. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Jackson Lafferty

May I have the report, Member for Hay River North?