Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll just use the 9.6 as an example. The 9.6 is made up of several different debentures, varying in different interest rates. The Power Corporation typically issues long-term debt to pay for refurbishment of some of their thermal hydro-generation assets, and to pay for a lot of their capital plan. So that's what these debentures, their long-term debt is associated with. Thank you, Madam Chair.