This is page numbers 393 - 436 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Any further questions on policing services? Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I recognize that the RCMP control their hiring practices, and I do appreciate the Minister's commitment to continue working with "G" Division. However, I think there is a bit of a political aspect missing from this conversation. I am looking at the federal financial committee's recommendations on budget 2020, recommendation 29, thanks to our MP, Mr. McLeod. It says, "Recognize Indigenous police services as central services under the law; ensure they can obtain long, stable term funding like other police services and expand these services in the northern territories." I really would like to see our government take a strong position on Indigenous policing. Really, what has been happening in the South, where more and more reserves are taking it on, has not really evolved to the level it should in the territories. I would like a commitment from the Minister of Justice to reach out to her counterpart, the Minister of Public Safety, the federal Minister of Finance, and then have this conversation at a political level. I am wondering if she is willing to do that.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Chair, will the Member be satisfied if I simply say yes?

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. We like yeses. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

No, I like yeses. Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you. Any further questions with respect to policing services? No further questions. Please turn to page 280. Justice, policing services, operations expenditure summary, 2020-2021 Main Estimates, $47,832,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you. We will now move on to services to government, on page, it says 279, but is it 281?

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Some Hon. Members

Yes.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Page 281, with information item on page 284. Are there any questions? No questions?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Please turn to page 282. Justice, services to government, operations expenditure summary, 2020-2021 Main Estimates, $12,961,000. Does committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you. Services to the public, on page 285, with information items on pages 287 to 291. Any questions? Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mahsi cho, Mr. Chair. I am just looking on page 286, top line, coroner's office. Actually, before at one point, it was $1.1 million, and now for these mains, it's $823,000. Does that just mean that there has been a decrease in positions, or can you explain the decrease for this office? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The actual numbers in 2018-2019 were just simply significantly higher than what had been budgeted. That can occur. It varies easily. One coroner's inquest can lead to much higher expenditures than usual. The forced growth that we are requesting here in terms of the main estimates, both in terms of the collective agreement but then also in terms of the general increase to the budget, it's one of the first times there has been an increase in some time. It hopefully will be a more accurate projection of what is expected to be the final estimates for 2020-2021. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I caught some of that. I understand there is some forced growth there with the collective agreement. Just so I am clear again, there is no change in positions here for this department? Thank you.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sorry, I think I may have actually been sort of mumbling along. I apologize. The increase that is being increased from the main estimates of 2019-2020 to 2020-2021, the increase in the mains is as a result in small part to the collective agreement increase but in more significant part is a forced growth application. The Member already pointed out the difference in the actuals, and so the increase here, and it's again, as I mentioned, the first time in some years that there has actually been an increase, is reflected in simply the increased costs. Everything from an increased cost for air and ground transportation as well as an increase to autopsy toxicology fees, body preservation, repatriation, these are all costs that have gone up over the years, and this is an effort to actually better reflect the reality of the costs that this office is facing. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Yellowknife Centre.

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Julie Green

Julie Green Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have a question for the Minister about maintenance enforcement. Can the Minister give us an idea of how effective maintenance enforcement is in transferring money collected to the people who are applying for it? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.