This is page numbers 393 - 436 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Chair, thank you. Contract services has two reasons for an increase. The first is in the integrated case management program saw some increase, and then, the guns and gangs is more than double that is the reason for the increase involving having local facilitators in the communities in order to assist in terms of garnering the research that's required to produce that strategy. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm wondering if the Minister can also speak to the first line item, community justice, and indicate in a little bit more detail, the increase of a million dollars under that line item. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It was pointed out to me just now, and I want to correct the record that the increase in contract services was exclusively for guns and gangs. It was a reduction on the ICM side, so I apologize for misstating that. With respect to community justice, the increase there, there's a number of reasons for the increase. This is where you get into contribution agreement to victim services. It is one reason for the increase. The increase is in resources to integrated case management of $276,000, as well as some increases as a result of the collective agreement that are increasing salaries during the current period and the impact, and then, yes, also, of course, the increase in funding for guns and gangs initiative of $465,000 is found under that line item. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Does the Minister have a breakdown of where people or the clients of ICM are from? Are they all from Yellowknife or some from communities? Is it a mixture? Is it exclusively Yellowknife? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In fact, only 55 percent of clients who go through ICM are either born and raised or have been in Yellowknife for more than five years. The rest entirely, so 45 percent of all clients that are receiving services from ICM are from outside of Yellowknife, from other Northwest Territories' communities. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In regards to the 45 percent that are from outside Yellowknife, do they have to be located within the capital at the time that they're receiving services to get help from ICM, or are they able to seek assistance over the phone, or through somebody located in a community? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. They don't necessarily need to be a resident of Yellowknife in order to. My understanding, anyhow, is that they don't need to be a resident of Yellowknife at the time of being accepted. Acceptance is based more on a referral, and referrals have to come in through a service provider within the social envelope that are participants in the ICM program. I can certainly confirm, and I've been told stories directly about individuals who have continued to receive services through the ICM program even when they have returned home to their home communities. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Kam Lake.

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Caitlin Cleveland

Caitlin Cleveland Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In regards to the protection against family violence line, does this also include financial support for victims of family violence? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No. Support for victims of crime directly would be either through victim services or through, perhaps, the emergency victims of crime fund, and I think I may have the fund slightly wrong. This line item is not for that purpose. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. No further questions from Member for Kam Lake. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have a couple of comments about this session. In your opening comments, you mentioned there was $5.6 million in forced growth, and that goes to increases in territorial police services agreement. One thing I'd love to see, and I know we are talking a lot about moving towards land claims and moving and implementing those agreements with our Indigenous governments. At some point down the road, I would love to see, to do what other jurisdictions like they do in Alberta. There are some reserves that police their own, like the Blood Tribe Police Services. They hire their own people, and they get funding. They thoroughly vet them, and they do that. At some point, I would love to see some of this instead of going to the RCMP, going to our own people. I think at some point, I'd love to see that.

I have a lot of respect for the RCMP. I've served them, but I think at some point down the road, we're going to finalize some of our agreements here. I'd love to see the Akaitcho hire their own, or the Dehcho, and have their own people enforce their own laws. Dene laws along with our own laws. That's what I would love to see somewhere down the road, and start having those conversations, and moving away from this colonial way of doing business. I'd just thought I'd make that opening comment. I'll leave that with that.

I did have a question with integrated case management, ICM. I notice here it's mainly for Yellowknife and it affects my constituents of Ndilo and Detah.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

This is, I guess, the section that you want to be referring to here is a little bit later, the policing section. Right now, we are on community justice and policing. Just bear with me. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Going back to what I was saying about integrated case management. I had a question for the Minister. Just speaking briefly with this, so this ICM, integrated case management covers Yellowknife, Ndilo and Detah. It covers my constituents of Ndilo and Detah, which is great, but it really doesn't offer too much outside of that. Just listening to some other questions here, I didn't really hear anything being addressed about any plans to move this program outside of the Yellowknife area. My question is: do you have any plans to do that, address this ICM and moving into the small communities?

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At this point, the program does service Yellowknife, Detah, and Ndilo specifically, and there is no express plan at this point to expand that service. Although, as I noted in some of the earlier questions, fully 45 percent of the individuals who receive services are residents of other communities. That said, the GNWT in general, right now, is taking an approach of trying to move to more integrated services and more integrated service delivery. That's about the best I can say right now, is that there is a broad level of commitment to improving this kind of service across communities and across services. As far as the integrated case management program specifically, there is not a set plan to expand it at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.