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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I don't think that was the answer I was looking for. This budget is prepared by the staff. Does it go to FMB for approval and/or the Minister of Finance or Cabinet? Who makes the final decision about whether and how this appears in the main estimates? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Chair, obviously, if I'm wrong about this, I will bring a correction back, but my understanding is that the Office of the Oil and Gas Regulator puts together their financial budgeting, just the same as any other department. It does go to the Department of Finance to be compiled together with all the main estimates that then come before the committee in the same fashion as the other items that the numbers that are here are generally put together through a business planning process. Obviously, all of the main estimates here didn't have quite the same business planning process because of the fall election, but in general, that was my understanding is that is how these numbers are generated. When I say it's the same as the others, obviously, it operates somewhat differently than a department because it is somewhat more at arm's length and doesn't have a deputy minister specifically other than deputy minister of Justice but it has an executive officer in charge. The numbers are otherwise put together in a similar fashion.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Look, I understand that these guys are at arm's length and that they put together the budget. Does the Minister have any oversight? Does the Minister sign off on this budget in any way? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Chair, I'm not trying to be obstructive. I guess I just sign off on it, the same as I sign off on the rest of the budget that is before committee right now. I am here to defend it. I'm here to provide explanations of it, and I'm prepared to receive any comments or concerns that the Member has about the numbers that are before the committee right now. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Well, it only took me six minutes to get there. Look, I've met with these people. They do a good job. They've got in place some guidance. They carry out their jobs good. No issues there whatsoever. They've been very helpful any time I visited or had questions, but at some point, there is no oil and gas activity happening here. How and when will we sort of review the financial needs for OROGO, and make any necessary adjustments if there's no oil and gas activity? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Chair, thank you. Fortunately, I have had contact with the staff who do administer the day-to-day operations and am assured that these numbers were developed initially post-devolution to reflect the certain reality, given the current reality in the business planning process that will be undertaken this spring, that there may well be a review to consider whether or not these estimates are more than is required in light of the work that they are being requested to do. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I guess I'm looking for an understanding of trends through time in terms of the level and the amount of activity and work that these folks have to do. The Minister says that that's being reviewed. Will that information be brought to standing committee for committee to look at? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It's my understanding that that work is currently being undertaken by the executive director of OROGO and that it will be coming before committee as part of the planning process. I can see the difference in the numbers myself. I am confident that the executive director at OROGO is going to be undertaking that work if she hasn't already. It will be back before committee. If the committee would like a technical briefing before we get into business planning process, I'm more than happy to make sure that that happens. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chair. The Minister seems to be looking at some numbers. Can those be shared now with Regular MLAs? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Chair, in referencing the reality in terms of looking at actuals and main estimates, just that there is a significant difference between what's being budgeted and what's actually being spent. Mr. Chair, the Member references trends over time. Let me look into that and see if there is a trend over time that I can produce and, if we can, that we can provide. The commitment is to at least look into it first and then determine whether or not it can be provided or when. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake, you have 30 seconds.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks. The story of my life. I'm running out of time. Yes. What I'm interested in is the number of applications they received; they've reviewed; the number of inspections they carried out; the amount of material posted to their active and suspended licences, permits; all of that kind of stuff. That's what I think we want to know is what the workload is and whether it's changing over time. I really look forward to getting that out of the Minister and the regulator. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Member. Minister.

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Caroline Wawzonek

Caroline Wawzonek Yellowknife South

Mr. Chair, that kind of tracking is being kept. I'm scanning my notes right now for numbers, but that's not the best use of anyone's time right here. Let me commit to getting some numbers back, and perhaps what I will do is engage directly with the Member first before responding, to ensure that we're giving the kinds of numbers he's looking for that can assist this committee in evaluating this work. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Rocky Simpson

Thank you, Minister. Are there any further questions? Member for Nunakput.