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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Deputy Minister.

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Cooper

Thank you. This clinic is a GNWT asset and, as such, would be returned to Infrastructure, and they would assess what the plan would be for that facility.

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The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Deputy Minister. May I remind the Member for Hay River South that we are looking at the operations budget for health? If you could specify those questions to that area, that would be great. Thank you, Member for Hay River South. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I look forward to seeing the continued work on the long-term care review. I think we already know what it's going to say, is that, despite the beds in the capital plan, which I fully support, there are simply not enough for the rate that our population is aging. I wanted to get a sense of going forward, this budget line item, long-term care and supported living. As we bring each of these new long-term care facilities on board, do we have any projected financials of what this line item would increase or the increased costs as we bring those units online? If I could get a sense of what this budget looks like over the next few years, given the increased beds we are building? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, absolutely. You look at the numbers in the Northwest Territories and our projected elders, our seniors' numbers are increasing, and the department is trying to go and match where we're at in terms of in five years, in 10 years, and do we have enough supports to be able to support our seniors who are aging at a high pace? How would that look as a department, and do we have enough facilities? Do we have enough resources? Are we building a 48-bed? Do we need a 58-bed? We're trying to match some of the services that we have and looking at the financial impacts, as well. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Yellowknife North.

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Rylund Johnson

Rylund Johnson Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. I appreciate all that work that is occurring, and I know that is essentially the work in the long-term care review. I guess I am trying to get a number so I can look at the capital budget and get a sense of every one of these units and beds we build, how much this number would increase. If you don't have that right now, it could be provided to the Standing Committee on Social Development or just a projection of even a sense of what the operating costs are for each additional unit we build, and then I could probably do the math to figure out what this is going to increase like over the next few years. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Minister, can you make that commitment?

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes. Sorry. Yes, Madam Chair. This is something that we will look at. We look at our capital costs, and some of the items that were approved under capital costs, and now we're increasing as inflation goes up and the cost of the ever-growing situation on the beds. Not only that, we have to also look at the operational costs and the many other costs associated. If we have 48 long-term care beds, do we have enough in our budget and our resources to be able to operate that? Do we have enough staff who are support workers in the long-term care beds? Absolutely. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Do you have further questions? No. Are there any further questions on this segment of the budget? Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chair. First of all, I want to make a brief statement. Our seniors and our elders are the knowledge base of what we have today. They have given us what we are experiencing today, and we have to remember that. Seniors and our elders and those who need care now have to be in a situation where we all feel that everyone is on an equal basis across the territory.

My question is: the Health and Social Services authority funding of the $45 million on page 177, how many facilities are we talking about?

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The funding for the 45 includes -- sorry, I'll just find it here -- the Norman Wells health centre and also the long-term care facility and the long-term care nursing for the new Stanton Territorial Hospital.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

On page 176, we're talking about long-term care and supported living. That $36,363,000, what does that include, for clarification? They're just figures to me. I just want clarification on the figure, please, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. Can I ask the Member to ask her question again? Sorry, I didn't hear.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

On page 176, the long-term care and supported living, it has a breakdown there of $36,363,000. I just want to know, for clarification, the breakdown.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I am going to ask Deputy Minister Cooper to provide the breakdown.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Deputy Minister.

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Cooper

Thank you, Madam Chair. This funding flows to support our long-term care beds. We have 183 long-term care beds throughout the territory and 16 respite beds. This money goes to our nine facilities, including our territorial dementia facility. We have facilities in Hay River. We have the territorial dementia facility in Aven Manor that this funds. Also, the Inuvik hospital long-term care unit, Northern Lights in Fort Smith, the Stanton extended care unit, Jimmy Erasmus Seniors' Home, Fort Simpson's elder home, and the Sahtu Dene Necha Ko long-term care in Norman Wells. That's the system that we have for our formal beds, including the partnership with Avens in Yellowknife. That's where this funding is flowing. That's our long-term care system.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Deputy Minister. Member for Thebacha.