This is page numbers 845 - 886 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was services.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We do have community counselling services that are available for clients who come back. Also, we have aftercare community counselling. We have outreach services that are available when clients do go out for treatment and when they come back, and we have the services available for them. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Deh Cho.

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Ronald Bonnetrouge

Ronald Bonnetrouge Deh Cho

No further questions.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you. Are there any further questions on out-of-territory services? Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks Madam Chair. We obviously want to take care of our citizens who are down south, and I understand that many of them have very complex needs and require specialized care that we can't provide here in the North. I am just wondering how often the cases, and treatment that's required for individuals, are reviewed. Is it on an annual basis, to see if those services might be available in the North? What's the process for reviewing all of this to see if any of those individuals can be moved back up to the Northwest Territories? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. We do annual site visits, and we check on the clients at least annually. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. Site visits, is it a team that goes? Is it just one individual? Is it a medical person who goes? With all due respect, I'm just trying to understand what the process looks like, if someone has a checklist or there's a medical assessment involved and so on. Can I get a bit more of an explanation? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to ask Deputy Minister Cooper to respond.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Deputy Minister.

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Cooper

Thank you. The purpose of our visitation and its authority and departmental staff is to assess the types of services to ensure that the programs and how they're operating are aligned with the contract that we have with the organization. We would be asking questions, like, I guess, an accreditation team would ask about, you know, the types of training that they have in place, the different program changes that they've made and these sorts of things to ensure that quality is in place. I don't have detail beyond that level.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Deputy Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thanks, Madam Chair. I appreciate the response. It's not that I question the capability of our staff; I'm just trying to understand a little bit better. If I could get maybe a commitment out of the Minister to just prepare a little bit more information, a briefing note or something, on how that annual review takes place and what kind of information is checked and so on, I would find it quite helpful myself. If I could get a commitment from the Minister to do that? Thanks, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister, can you make that commitment?

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes, Madam Chair. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Are there any further questions in this area? Go ahead, Member for Thebacha.

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

I'm just looking at the line with the addictions treatment facilities and the 191 clients. 191 clients come back. Do you have any statistics for the success rate of those who just go back and do it all over again? Do you have any of those kind of statistics that are available?

Every family deals with addiction issues -- I don't care where we come from -- at some point in our life. One of the things that happens is that it's the aftercare. The aftercare is a major problem. You hear it from even our mental health workers in the communities, and they do an awesome job. The mental healthcare divisions in the communities and in the regional centres do an awesome job, but they can't be going around the clock either. I am just wondering about the whole thing with aftercare, because once they leave the facility, there should be a place for them to go somewhere, like, for three months after they have done their treatment time or six months. There should be that variety, because it happens in most large cities and everywhere else, they have these different homes. Aftercare is extremely important, and I don't see a line for that. It's something to think about in the future.

The other thing I want to ask you about is the residential care that is provided for the outside extreme cases. Are you thinking of repatriating some of those back to the territories? I think that was one of the questions that was asked. Is that why we have the line on the previous page for the Health and Social Services on page 177, the $45 million? I just wonder about that, because it's extremely important that a lot of these patients are brought back, if possible, to the territories.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. The aftercare is crucial. I mean, we put a lot of money and effort to send our residents out for some treatment and for some help, and then, when they come back, we have programs and services that are available. You wouldn't see a line item in this "out-of-territory services;" it would come under one of our program service areas where we provide the support that way. We are also doing an RFP to be able to look at some of our patients who are outside. We have our department staff who meet with them annually to go through and see how they're doing. It's a checklist for us, so we do have that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Minister. Further questions, Member for Thebacha?

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Frieda Martselos

Frieda Martselos Thebacha

I just want clarification, I guess, on the overlapping issue with page 177 and 180 when we look at the allocation to Norman Wells and to that line with $45 million, the Yellowknife line, the $45,056,000 on page 177 and the overlapping issue with residential care on repatriation of those clients. I'm just asking that question for clarification.

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The Chair

The Chair Julie Green

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Minister.

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Diane Archie

Diane Archie Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to ask Deputy Minister Cooper to answer that. Thank you.