This is page numbers 2907 - 2950 of the Hansard for the 19th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was assembly.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I believe that the Member is referring to the sole adjudicator process, the report, and these are not on topic. And he is really, I think, using some abusive, insulting language. I believe this is a breach of the rules, Mr. Speaker, Rule 24. So I would ask that the Member confine his remarks to the point of privilege and not bring in the sole adjudicator and use respectful language. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. The Member has called a point of order. That Member just read his point of order.

Members, I just want to say that we cannot refer to what's been said in the report that hasn't been tabled yet. Once it has, then you could say anything that you want to about the report. But until then, do not reference anything in that report.

There is a point of order. And I'll ask the Member to retract his remarks and apologize to the House. Thank you. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sure, if that's the wishes of the Member, I can retract the referral to the adjudicator's report. I think that's what was mentioned. If I may, can I continue on, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Sorry, Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh, also apologize to the House. Mahsi.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Okay, I was just waiting for the light to come on here.

You know, and Mr. Speaker, the wording in the motion removing me from the office is surprising and --

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Some Hon. Members

Retract the statement.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

The two-part thing you had to do is retract the statement and apologize to the House. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Sorry, I was going to continue on. Yeah, I'll retract what the -- make the referral to the adjudicator's report, and I apologize for that.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Yes, carry on, Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

Going back to the motion, the wording in the motion to remove me from office is surprising, Mr. Speaker. And I don't believe people in the -- like, in this House can do that. Only my constituents can do that at the polls during election.

Removal from office is overkill and unprecedented. We've had past Members in this House commit serious crimes and still retain their seats.

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Some Hon. Members

Point of order.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, point of order is called. To the point of order, Member for Hay River North.

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R.J. Simpson

R.J. Simpson Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I just want to keep us on track. So right now, we're discussing a point of privilege related to threatening comments that have been made, and we're not discussing the motion in the report as you had just mentioned. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Hay River North. The Member for Hay River North has called a point of order. He's just read his point of order. The Member has called the point of order. Does the Member -- offending Member wish to explain? Call the point of order.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Sorry, can you repeat the question, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

The Member just called a point of order on you. Do you wish to explain what you were trying to say.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Oh yeah, I was just speaking to the motion because there was mention in the wording and just for clarification that there was recommendation for removal for my seat, and I was just speaking to that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you. Does anyone else wish to speak to the point of order. Member for Frame Lake.

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Kevin O'Reilly

Kevin O'Reilly Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recognize this is very difficult debate/discussion that we're having. But there is no motion on the floor right now. What we're talking about is a point of privilege raised by the Member for Thebacha. And I believe that Members should keep their remarks to the point of privilege, not a report that hasn't even been tabled in the House. A rule of anticipation, Mr. Speaker, you can't talk about something that hasn't even arrived in the House yet but we expect it. So for a number of reasons, I would suggest that the Member confine his comments to the point of privilege alone. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. To the Member's point of order, there is a point of order. I ask the Member to please retract his statement and apologize to the House. Thank you.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Yeah, mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. So just for clarification, what exactly do you want me to retract, like what wording do you want me to retract? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Thank you. With mention to the report and the perceived outcome.

Member, I have already ruled that you cannot reference the sole adjudicator's report at this time. If you continue to do so, I will have no choice but to un-name you Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh on the point of privilege. Thank you.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. So am I okay to proceed?

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The Speaker

The Speaker Frederick Blake Jr.

Yes.

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Steve Norn

Steve Norn Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

And going back to, you know, the point of privilege and the words that were said, like I said, I'll say it again, they were taken out of context, and I apologize. Like everybody else here, I think we spent enough time on this that we just want to move on and continue on with our business. But what I've experienced because of all this is if there's any price that had to paid, I think I paid twice over. And that's all I have to say, Mr. Speaker.