Yes, thank you. I'm going to take some time to explain that the scope of practice for midwives is different than it is for obstetric nurses. Sometimes you get midwives who are also obstetric nurses and often they're not.

So midwives have their own scope of practice to attend low risk births in hospital settings but in other settings as well.

And so even had the midwifery positions been available for advertisement and if we had been fortunate enough to fill them at that time, we would still be in the same jam that we are today with the shortage of obstetric nurses. So they are a valuable component of the suite of services that are provided to people giving birth, but they are not interchangeable with other parts. Thank you.