Thanks, Madam Chair. I sat in on the committee hearing and some of the deliberations that they had on the private Member's bill. I think it's probably fair to -- well, let me start by saying up until two or three years ago, I didn't even know what a limiter was. So a little bit of privilege I guess there. But I was very surprised to learn that we -- these things were here in the Northwest Territories and that people sort of had to live with this reality of if they go into arrears, utility can install a limiter that turns their power on for 15 minutes and then turns it off for 15 minutes. And I don't know how people live with that. So I guess I have some sympathy with getting rid of limiters, but limiters are really the symptom of a deeper problem, and it really relates to housing, but also I think poor communications from the utilities themselves. I guess I think that the Public Utilities Board, can't really tell them what to do, but might provide some clearer direction in that area as well. And just did a complete disconnect between income assistance and public housing as well.

In the last Assembly, we went through a -- well, not that I supported it -- a fairly extensive cost cutting exercise. And one of the things that I recall, and I may not get all of the details right, but the Housing Corporation was providing subsidized power rates in public housing units, and what happened was that they wanted to try to I think get rid of some of those expenses, so to speak, but they also wanted tenants to become more energy-conservation friendly, I guess is a nice way to put it, in terms of energy consumption in their units.

So we made a move to get rid of the subsidized power in public housing and shift the burden to the residents, the public housing tenants themselves, which I think has probably resulted in some increase in arrears in utility and the use of limiters now. So sometimes cutting costs has some pretty unintended consequences or things that we may not foresee.

So in any event, I don't think that the bill resolves the underlying problems, and think committee was struggling with a way to try to do that and came up with, I think, some good recommendations to try to deal with this issue that does, really, come down to poverty and housing. And I want to commend the committee for the work on it.

Also did some looking at other jurisdictions, and I came up with some ideas, and I think you'll see those reflected in the recommendations that came forward in the committee's report. So I want to commend the committee for doing a lot of hard work and trying to think this through, and I think they've come up with some good recommendations. Thanks, Madam Chair.