Thank you. The Member is talking in regards to our equity lease staff that had a three-year term contract. The collective agreement changed it so that, after 24 months, this person would become an indeterminate position. When they were in that position with equity leases, they were indeterminate. When the funding was gone, that person became an affected employee; they were no longer a term employee, so as the assistant deputy minister explained, because of the new collective agreement, it changed from a term to up to 24 months; then it became an indeterminate, so we needed to follow the HR process but also the collective agreement.

The collective agreement said, if you are an affected employee, you get that opportunity for advancement. The collective agreement also -- or not "advancement." If you are affected, you then have that right to apply for or get another job within the organization if you are qualified to do that position. If you are a term employee, then you are not qualified, but if you basically, to make a long story short -- I apologize. I may be trying to make it confusing. If you are an indeterminate position, you are an affected employee. You get that right to move, get put into a position that you qualify for. That is my understanding of that process. Thank you, Mr. Chair.